Worth the risk?

AuntKitty · #21 01/01/12, 12:05 PM

Don't worry andabigmac - I knew you were joking!

Seriously, tell us where you are and we may know someone closer than 1.5 hours away.

Kitty

mekasmom · #22 01/01/12, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MaddieLynn

I'm very leery but not testing seems to be an epidemic around here.

It depends on your own comfort level. Since you have this fear, it would probably put you more at ease to get a tested doe. That said 80% of the caprine herds in this nation are thought to have carriers of the adenovirus.

Oat Bucket Farm · #23 01/01/12, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by oz in SC V2.0

Can't deer bring CAE onto your land?
I seem to remember reading that somewhere.

No, deer do not carry CAE onto your land.

As far as hard copy proof, what that is referring to is the actual copy of the test from the lab where it was done.

oz in SC V2.0 · #24 01/01/12, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Oat Bucket Farm

No, deer do not carry CAE onto your land.

As far as hard copy proof, what that is referring to is the actual copy of the test from the lab where it was done.

We never received a copy of that,but the Vet is close by so it shouldn't be too difficult to get hopefully.

MaddieLynn · #25 01/01/12, 04:18 PM

Well, the lady has a really nice Saanen doe (who milked 2 gal/day) that she is currently taking care of for an elderly and very ill friend. She's trying to find out if he's willing to sell it. The doe is NOT currently tested but the lady already had blood pulled and is sending it in on Tuesday. She said she's 95% sure the doe will be negative because she knows this gentleman's herd and remembers that when the doe was purchased she was negative and from a closed clean herd. If she comes back negative I'll be VERY interested.

Also, it's too early to tell if she took yet, but she was bred to a Saanen buck whose mother was reserve national champion! I would be really happy to get to keep a doe kid from that cross.

EDIT: Ugh. The man doesn't want to sell her.

mysticklobo · #26 01/01/12, 04:58 PM

It is Bluetongue that deer carry. I know some state require testing for it or that the herd be from an area that is "free" of it. I've been looking into the requirements to bring goats into New Mexico, as I am trying to build a small herd of Mytonic goats and there are only two breeders in the state.

copperpennykids · #27 01/01/12, 09:35 PM

The thing about herds that "don't know anything about CAE" is that not only do they not test, they don't even know to avoid it.

Therefore, there is a pretty good chance that several of the animals in their herd are positive for CAE. Whether they pool milk for feeding or just through continual nose to nose contact, seems like herds like this eventually "convert" at some point. Nothing Magical happened - just the virus finally manifests itself at some point - and then you have lots of hard decisions (and lots of extra work) to make... If you can start with a nice doe from a clean herd, why not strive for that?

Goat Servant · #28 01/01/12, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by andabigmac

Don't get a saanen. I'm annoyed with mine today because she likes to chew my hair and manged to get the rubber band off of my braid. It took forever before I could get it out of her mouth. She outweighs me and took me for a nice drag. She thought it was frolicking good fun. They can also baa with their mouths shut which drives you crazy when you have a lot of goats because you can't tell who is calling you. It also sounds far off which makes you think one of them is lost so you have to do a quick head count. They also don't like to eat their minerals out of the mineral feeder. It tastes better if you hand feed it. She'll stand at the feeder and nose through it until you hand feed it to her. They also steal your gloves out of your pocket when you're not looking and then chew the fingers off before you can get the glove back. People say they're stand-offish but they're just hanging back and assessing the best way too make you laugh (or go crazy). Mine is named Skwiss. She's lucky she's pretty.
I adore her. She's a total clown.

It all started out with Andabigmac's bad hair day.

Cannon_Farms · #29 01/01/12, 11:05 PM

deer can bring in CL and Mengial worm aka deer worm along with other parasites

andabigmac · #30 01/01/12, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Goat Servant

It all started out with Andabigmac's bad hair day.

I went to Christmas and my SIL remarked on my new piece of long bangs. I have long hair except for a strip about a half inch wide that falls a bit below my cheekbone. Guess who my stylist was... That happened last month. I try to wear it slicked back and in a bun around the goats now.

chamoisee · #31 01/02/12, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by andabigmac

I'm sorry. I was trying to be funny. My saanen has so much personality and keeps us all hopping. She is a great goat in every aspect. She's a bit spoiled though.

If you can find a good disease free saanen snatch her up!

LOL, no offense taken. I thought maybe you were kidding but I wasn't sure! I think Saanens are some of the nicest goats...along with La Manchas. Some La Manchas will bite ears on other breeds though, knowing that they cannot possibly retaliate....

To the OP, order a goat from a reputable herd. Have it shipped, drive halfway to pick it up, etc. There must be someone on here who has a doe that is definitely negative.

Pony · #32 01/02/12, 12:15 AM

Patience.

I know the sense of urgency when first you start in goats, but really, if you are patient, you will find the right goats with the right CAE statue (NEGATIVE).

Many folks here can steer you to clean herds. If you note someone who lives in your area, you could send a PM to her/him and inquire.

I would never take a questionable goat into my herd. The risk to the goats I have - and any future goats - is too high.

Pony · #33 01/02/12, 12:18 AM

BTW, I am the only one I know of in this area who tests and keeps a closed herd. A lot of folk think I'm "too picky" but my animals are healthy and produce healthy milk and meat.

I may be "picky," but I don't care what other people say anyway. Like Andabigmac's tagline says, why care what people think, because they tend not to think anyhow.