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Old 12/12/11, 07:53 AM
 
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I am getting an all purpose 13% pellet at Atwoods for $6.99 for a 40lb bag, i buy that and a 12% sweet feed and mix 3 to 1. Of course hay, mineral, salt and soda available always. All stock and sweet feed at my TSC are also $9.99. They only carry one goat food and it is medicated.

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Old 12/12/11, 10:21 AM
 
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Aint yall glad to have a TSC manager here to tell you the scoop on our feed.

The $8 bag of all stock is a temporary thing, purina ordered the wrong bags about 200,000 worth and as soon as it runs out its out. This variety is the same as the other all stock sweet however this one is preserved with animal fat.

Do my goats do good off an all stock with good mineral ( I use the dumor pasture mineral) yep but when Im milking I used all grain with alfalfa pellets and Boss mixed in and the all stock for the main feed. Thats unless Godfreys feed is worth the drive, love the feed hate the distance.

Little tots estates also uses an all stock with all grain on the stand just as I do, hes got quite a few goats to say the least.
thanks for the help! and info, btw what is Boss?
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Old 12/12/11, 01:14 PM
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BOSS = Black Oil Sunflower Seed. It's added to feed for fat & vitamin E.

I used to use it, my goats love it, but the price skyrocketed way out of my price range.

Now to add extra fat I use rice bran instead. It has more fat & vitamin E than BOSS, so a little goes a long way, but it's much more affordable.

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Old 12/12/11, 01:50 PM
 
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if i may ask, why do people also tend to use Oats or Beep pulp. what does this do. to few terms for feed i have so far heard of is...

Goat chow Noble <<store bought stuff
Oats
BOSS
beet pulp
corn
all stock feed
horse feed
alfalfa pellets

any other things people add to there goats food to improve it. If so what and why

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Old 12/12/11, 02:19 PM
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oats are a decent combination of protein and energy. not used so much with cows anymore but goats can use them efficiently.
BOSS has good protein and also helps keep the coat glossy with the extra oils in it
Beet pulp has high digestible fiber as well as decent energy levels. a favorite of cattle showmen to keep the cows looking fat and sassy Fleet Farm is always sold out during the county fair..... Less digestive problems associated with it than corn.

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Old 12/12/11, 03:37 PM
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We use beet pulp. It has almost as many calories as oats, but digests like a forage. We also use the Manna Pro loose goat minerals. Can't get the Onyx stuff out here for some reason. We also feed the Manna Pro Goat Balancer.

The does get a mix of oats and pelleted horse feed along with a little beet pulp and a scoop of balancer on the milk stand.

They have grass hay, a little alfalfa hay(alfalfa hay is over 10 dollars a bale out here) and alfalfa pellets, all free choice.

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Old 12/12/11, 04:16 PM
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My girls love beet pulp shreds! I used it to help fatten up my milker when she was looking a bit thin this summer. When I can afford it I add it to my grain mix..... It jumped $4 a bag here though so I haven't added it in a while.

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Old 12/13/11, 12:39 AM
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I was feeding the Noble Goat to my doelings but its medicated and need to switch over before they start kidding as the coccidiostat isnt good for the milk. The Goat Chow from Purina is ridiculously high. I found Kent 18% milking goat at a local elevator for $11.25 a 50 lb bag... they get that and free choice grass/alfalfa hay along with minerals... I'm pretty happy with that price. I don't think the sweet feed or all stock are much good...

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Old 12/13/11, 09:51 AM
 
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i might pick up a bag of beet pulp. i have a Bag of corn open, for my pig, and i noticed the goats "like it" but i stopped since i read its not good for them. however last night and this morning i have a Major Migraine headache, and my boyfriend trying to be nice.. "fed" everyone...i smiled and said thanks..but then realized he doesn't know what to feed anyone..or how much..its the thought that counts. but i have that Headache still... lol.. goats got a nice scoop full for corn.

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I don't feed all stock, boss or alfalfa, every thing I have gets 14& creep pellets. I have free choice hay out at all times, the goats have a mineral bucket in a molassas base, plus free choice loose minerals. I feed horses, goats, and Dexter cattle, everyone is fat, healthy and doing well, so I'm not changing anything, creep feed is 14 dollars a hundred lbs, best deal around. It seems like the sweet feed is always full of trash, looks like floor sweepings, or it's too much molassas, all sticky, so I just stay with the pellets, they are clean and simple,

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Old 12/13/11, 01:04 PM
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Littlequail, I hope your head feels better soon. When I was at a seminar a couple of weeks ago, the presenter mentioned that warming your hands really well, and putting an ice pack on your head, can help alleviate migraine pain. Worth a try - if you haven't already given it a shot.

When my goats get corn, it's only about 1 scoop divided between the five of them. Not a lot, just enough to warm them up. I am very careful about the balance.

Those of you who feed pre-made "chow" type feed
: How does that work for you? I mean, I feed the dogs and cats bagged dog/cat feed, but never even thought of it for the goats. Is it cost-effective? Do they do well? How does it affect their rumens?

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Old 12/13/11, 01:19 PM
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I feed my girls a mix of Oats, Boss & 16% rabbit pellets all mixed together. In the winter I do add a little cracked corn to help warm them up. I started mixing this & using it a couple years ago & it works fine for me & the girls are all healthy & look good.

They also get Right Now Onyx loose mineral, baking soda & hay free choice 24/7.

My bucks I do feed a pelleted type feed that has Ammonium Chloride in it, plus they get the same mineral & I add a little ammonium chloride to that along with Baking soda & hay as well.
I have been using the same pelleted feed since I had a buck get Urinary calculi 2 or 3 years ago & so far it's seems to work fine & my boys like it & are healthy.

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Littlequail, I hope your head feels better soon. When I was at a seminar a couple of weeks ago, the presenter mentioned that warming your hands really well, and putting an ice pack on your head, can help alleviate migraine pain. Worth a try - if you haven't already given it a shot.

When my goats get corn, it's only about 1 scoop divided between the five of them. Not a lot, just enough to warm them up. I am very careful about the balance.

Those of you who feed pre-made "chow" type feed
: How does that work for you? I mean, I feed the dogs and cats bagged dog/cat feed, but never even thought of it for the goats. Is it cost-effective? Do they do well? How does it affect their rumens?
thanks pony! and willing to give anything a shot. will try!
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Old 12/13/11, 08:03 PM
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I feed my girls a mix of Oats, Boss & 16% rabbit pellets all mixed together.
LOL!

When I take the goats for walk-abouts, Trub makes a beeline for the rabbit hutches and sticks that big ol' Nubian nose into their feeders. She absolutely adores rabbit chow.

Maybe that's what she needs...
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Good to see all the discussion and variations on what works/doesn't work and what is available around the country. Just to throw in my two-cents ~ we are hay growers, cow ranchers, and I have raised a few sheep and a lot of dairy goats for about 8 years, primarily Nigerians but the standard breeds as well- I have always fed my goats 100% the alfalfa we grow- boys and girls. The boys get the "poorer" quality 2nd cut to limit problems with urethral stones (never had it here). If its under 15 degrees in winter or in full breeding season, they get a handful of LMF (horse) concentrate a couple times a week, and a couple handfuls of whatever all-stock mix looks good from the feed store. Milking/lactating/late pregnancy goats get the same, but all they can eat on the milk stand. That's it. Loose goat minerals, salt with selenium (our soil is deficient in this area) and baking soda are available to all. We are limited in our choices of "stock feed" here, but some of the stuff looks like its basically floor-sweepings with a watery fake 'molasses' added. None of our goats, sheep or cows would eat it- so its advised to look on the label- and if its remotely nutritionally balanced, buy a bag and check it out. Don't rely on the pictures on the bag, and don't assume a national brand is OK. One major caution- fresh cut and baled alfalfa should be "cured" for 60 to 90 days as it WILL cause bloat in goats, sheep and cows until the enzymes are done 'working'. Can't say there is any definitive way to raise our animals. It all depends on the soils, climate and feeds.
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Old 12/14/11, 02:03 PM
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I don't feed all stock, boss or alfalfa, every thing I have gets 14& creep pellets. I have free choice hay out at all times, the goats have a mineral bucket in a molassas base, plus free choice loose minerals. I feed horses, goats, and Dexter cattle, everyone is fat, healthy and doing well, so I'm not changing anything, creep feed is 14 dollars a hundred lbs, best deal around. It seems like the sweet feed is always full of trash, looks like floor sweepings, or it's too much molassas, all sticky, so I just stay with the pellets, they are clean and simple,
are they not medicated? what brand is it? this sounds good
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