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Old 10/20/11, 06:03 AM
 
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Thank god ya'll posted those two comments. I was convinced we needed to kill the goat. But my wife was really upset and didn't want to do it. After me getting her to read the post, it convinced her the best thing was to put it down. The deed will be done today. Thank yall again.
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Old 10/20/11, 07:35 PM
 
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Just to left everyone know, we put the cut down today. I was able to convince my wife with your help.
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Old 10/20/11, 07:38 PM
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It's always sad. I'm sorry you two had to go through that. Did you get the other two from the same farm?
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Old 10/21/11, 10:16 AM
 
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You should have your other goats blood tested.
I also want to say, I am going to be the bad guy here. I have seen CL in person. I had purchased 2 goats. The owner had tested all of his herd the year prior and came back negative (I saw the results) Both had small lumps on their sides, neither place was "common" for CL abscesses. But, because I have a "standard" for my place, I isolated the goats, and sent off blood samples. 1 came back positive, the other negative. Well, at that point (trying not to freak out), I sent off samples of both abscesses. Both of the samples looked identical... 1 was positive, 1 was once again negative. The positive one was dealt with properly. The negative one was isolated for another year and retested several times. This was 4 years ago. He is still negative.
You cannot tell if it is CL just by "looking" at it, and the vet saying what he said is appalling to me. The test is only about $13.
I am very much for culling and properly disposing of the carcass of CL animals, but I also would WANT to know what I am dealing with.

Do you have loose minerals? Have you given the goats their shots?
Your "nubian" looks more like a Saanen/Boer cross to me. How old is she? I like her build!
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Old 10/21/11, 03:00 PM
 
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Alright I did not get them from the same place. They were seperate. I am going to get blood tests done for the other goats. Also Im not sure how old she is I am thinking around 4-5
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Old 10/21/11, 03:06 PM
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I'm so sorry you had to put the goat down. As others have advised, CL is nothing to mess around with. We all faced a steep learning curve as newbies to goats. Hopefully, the generous and experienced folks on this forum will help you climb that learning curve. May all your future goat experiences be positive ones.
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Old 10/21/11, 03:45 PM
 
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Please don't beat yourself up over this. You just started into goats and anytime someone does something new mistakes will be made. This can happen to anyone of us at anytime no matter what anyone on hear tells you different. This cl can be spread by anything that comes onto or into your farm wild animals, flies, birds, and it can walk in on the soles of your shoes. Think about a absess breaking on a farm,someone walks threw the pus and then goes into tsc or even your local grocery store and you walk where they did. Bingo it's brought back to your farm. I know its far fetched but it could happen. Like everything in life we take a chance. I feel your wife's heartache. I know what it's like to have your bubble burst. I don't know if you are close to my state but, I'd like to help you get a replacement doe. I feel like I started this by asking about her lump first. Let me know if I can help.
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Old 10/21/11, 05:08 PM
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Aw momma that is really sweet of you and I can vouch she has good, healthy, clean goats. CL is everywhere... when we were at the fair we seen a Nubian doe with one, a few sheep with them and me and the bf seen a few boers the next weekend with them. And the really shocking thing when we were talking to boer breeders many of them had no idea what CL was.
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Old 10/22/11, 09:43 AM
 
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So sorry about your doe. I have been there with CAE, had to cull a doe I had for less than a year, plus both of her doelings, and it sucked! But at least you are doing everything you can to keep your other goats safe. CL is an awful disease and I, personally, would have done what you did. It is not something I would take chances with. What if you had sent the exudate to be tested and she infected your other goats before the results came back? Don't feel bad about making a hard decision. I had people tell me I was overreacting by culling my goats too, but I feel confident that I made the right decision for our situation. And I'm sure you did too. Good luck with your other goats, you have found a great place to look for advice.
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Old 10/22/11, 09:54 AM
 
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Well I appreciate everyones kind words. The hardest part was that it was the first pet I have had to pull the trigger on. But honestly it was good to get the first one out of the way. At least in this circumstance I had to, so it made it a bit easier. But we are in the market for a few more goats and I am in georiga lol.

But I do have one questions. Can my dogs catch CL? Or is it just a caprine infection? Also after the vet we put her in the dog pen to seclude her and give me a chance to kill her. Now I didnt kill her in the pen but she was there. How long should I burn that spot to kill cl?
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Old 10/22/11, 09:28 PM
 
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This is what I found in a horse forum it states. This bacteria also causes disease ( caseous lymphadenitis ) in sheep, goats, cattle, llamas, dogs and may even be spread to humans in rare cases. When you have some time to yourself just google cl and read everything you can and then figure out your next plan of attack.
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Old 10/23/11, 02:00 PM
 
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well I found a good bit but I still havent seen how to kill it other then burning. The dog kennel it was in is in my yard. Now I dont care if there is a burn spot in the yard. Thats not a big deal. But I cant very well get rid of the kennel. also is there a way to save the feed buckets. Will a bleach wash be good enough?
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Old 10/23/11, 03:32 PM
 
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Was her absess broken open? From what I believe to be true you are safe as long as no puss touched anything. Please someone correct me here if I am mistaken.
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Old 10/23/11, 07:02 PM
 
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well the vet lanced it. so it did burst but there is a chance it might have rubbed against something
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