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Old 09/06/11, 07:08 PM
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has raw milk in any state where it is legal put any big dairy out of business?
Over 50% of milk shipped goes to cheese less than 30% goes to actual fluid milk sales.
I don't know any farmer that got his panties in a wad when WI was almost on the brink of legalizing raw milk.
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Old 09/06/11, 07:33 PM
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Its not the farmers I've ever had a problem with......its the system...Dare I say it, THE GOVERNMENT.
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Have to beg to differ with you.

Here in MO, the Big Dairy Guy told the Milk Board head that the little-guy, family operated dairies are "pirates" trying to steal away his business.

If you don't think the big guys feel threatened by the little guys, you need to read more on this issue.

I beg to differ with you ........here in Ohio......some of the large conventional dairy farmers were "red-faced, podium pounding mad" about ANY "specialty' milk. They were practically screaming ,"ALL MILK IS MILK," and there is no difference (they even had bumper stickers printed p iwth that logo)........UNTIL a small dairy from southern Ohio brought a truck load of 'specialty' milk and passed out free half gallons.....with the confident, advice, "Taste the difference." That specialty milk is all non-homogenied, and from grass based dairies.......and no on lever said a word at subsequent hearings about. "All milk is milk."

Oh yeah!!! they care a whole lot......but instead of improving their own product they are determined to not allow the consumer to have ANY choice!!! I believe that what they want is a monopoly......and the government is on the wrong side of this argument!!!!
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Old 09/07/11, 08:08 AM
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wasn't that about BGH?
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wasn't that about BGH?
The hearings were about a proposed rule regarding "milk produced without the use of r-bst,' but A LOT of the testimony by the commercial dairy farmers focused on trying to 'do away with' all "specialty" milk. At the first hearing, if I remember correctly, some of them were passing out the bumper stickers, "All milk is milk!!" That talk seemed to end after Snowville Creamery brought a truckload of half gallon containers of their milk and passed them out (free).
http://www.snowvillecreamery.com/

Several months ago, the owner of Snowville Creamery was telling me that the 'mega-dairies) (Dean's, etc) were trying to get regulations passed that would put smaller operations like his out of business.

Big Agribusiness sees the small operations as a huge threat to their bottom line. As further evidence, their push for the 'Food safety and Modernization Act,' and their withdrawal of their support when small operations were exempted from most of the regulations.
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I beg to differ with you ........here in Ohio......some of the large conventional dairy farmers were "red-faced, podium pounding mad" about ANY "specialty' milk. They were practically screaming ,"ALL MILK IS MILK," and there is no difference (they even had bumper stickers printed p iwth that logo)........UNTIL a small dairy from southern Ohio brought a truck load of 'specialty' milk and passed out free half gallons.....with the confident, advice, "Taste the difference." That specialty milk is all non-homogenied, and from grass based dairies.......and no on lever said a word at subsequent hearings about. "All milk is milk."

Oh yeah!!! they care a whole lot......but instead of improving their own product they are determined to not allow the consumer to have ANY choice!!! I believe that what they want is a monopoly......and the government is on the wrong side of this argument!!!!
Billooo2, I don't know why you're begging to differ with me, when we are obviously in agreement.

Did you mean to direct your comment at Sammy, or did I miss something? I KNOW the Big Suits hate the little businesses, and are trying to squash them (and our free choice) out of existence.

I was shocked to find out how much sway these fat cats hold in MO - shocked, dismayed, and disgusted, b/c we moved here to get away from that chit.
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If anyone here or anywhere believes that our U.S. government (State's too) is not bought and paid for by BIG agri-businesses like Monsanto, ADM, Tyson, Cargill and the like – You are an absolute ill-informed fool.

We are all going to wake up one day and realize America ain’t America “land of the free” any more. We are being strangled by regulations and laws that make what we call freedom illegal. Most people are sheep. Don’t be a sheep! Wake up now while we still have time to do something. It might be too late already.

You all better read more, study up and write your congressmen, write the president and support rights groups (you know whaT groups I mean) or this country will become one corporate owned - government inspected beehive and baby you ain’t queen bee NO MORE!!!



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OOPS!!!.....OOOPS!!!...OOOOPS!!!
Sorry about that!!!!

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Billooo2, I don't know why you're begging to differ with me, when we are obviously in agreement.

Did you mean to direct your comment at Sammy, or did I miss something? I KNOW the Big Suits hate the little businesses, and are trying to squash them (and our free choice) out of existence.

I was shocked to find out how much sway these fat cats hold in MO - shocked, dismayed, and disgusted, b/c we moved here to get away from that chit.
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Old 09/08/11, 11:25 AM
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Billooo2, I don't know why you're begging to differ with me, when we are obviously in agreement.

Did you mean to direct your comment at Sammy, or did I miss something? I KNOW the Big Suits hate the little businesses, and are trying to squash them (and our free choice) out of existence.

I was shocked to find out how much sway these fat cats hold in MO - shocked, dismayed, and disgusted, b/c we moved here to get away from that chit.



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This is true.

And I've written to the prostiticians, I've donated to help the cause of right and raw milk, and I will do everything within my power to stand up against the sell-out of our once-great Republic to a bunch of fat cat suit-wearing monkeys.

I've been fighting them for so long, but I will (in the words of Winston Churchill) "Never, never, NEVER give up!"
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If anyone here or anywhere believes that our U.S. government (State's too) is not bought and paid for by BIG agri-businesses like Monsanto, ADM, Tyson, Cargill and the like – You are an absolute ill-informed fool.

We are all going to wake up one day and realize America ain’t America “land of the free” any more. We are being strangled by regulations and laws that make what we call freedom illegal. Most people are sheep. Don’t be a sheep! Wake up now while we still have time to do something. It might be too late already.

You all better read more, study up and write your congressmen, write the president and support rights groups (you know whaT groups I mean) or this country will become one corporate owned - government inspected beehive and baby you ain’t queen bee NO MORE!!!




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