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Old 07/02/11, 06:51 PM
 
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I thought you may be interested to read these links.
http://wdfw.wa.gov/living/coyotes.html#problems

http://www.awareone.org/index.php?op...id=9#eliminate

http://www.wilderness-sportsman.com/...oyote-problem/

All I ask is that if you tell me I am wrong prove it to me. Show me the facts not just your opinion. For the most part Coyotes are very afraid of humans and will avoid confrontations with people if at all possible.
Years ago we murdered almost all the wolves in the lower 48 states. The deer and coyote populations exploded. Then people complained that there are too many deer and they are a hazard so now we are supposed to slaughter them too.

On Vancouver Island there used to be a huge deer population. Humans slaughtered them in record numbers. Guess what now Vancouver Island has a serious Cougar problem. Of all of the cougar attacks in all of North America 50% happen on Vancouver Island! Why because when there were a lot of deer they had lots to eat. Now they are hungry and desperate so they are attacking humans.

We need to learn to exist with wildlife not slaughter it. We are the cause of our own problems. Coyotes learn humans don't, who is the smarter species?
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Old 07/02/11, 07:25 PM
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Sorry Blue I copied the wrong poster info. My mistake.
It was Meant for 195Pilot not you. So Sorry.
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Old 07/02/11, 07:34 PM
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Old 07/03/11, 02:37 AM
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Kris,
My concern was you safety, not only from being mauled but have you stop to think of the disease factor from a little nip. The first one to come to mind is rabies. one thing is clear with wildlife they are not as predictable as you make them out.
You can go ahead and say that we have given the coyote an asteem problem and we don't understand them but the facts are they are the largest predator(carnivore) in some parts of the country.
You can take you pots and pans and chase coyotes off your back porch and out of your yard.I prefer to take care of my coyotes in a different fashion. Come to think of it I don't have coyote on my porch or in my back yard. I take care of my coyote problem.
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I notice that there are more or less 2 camps around here when it comes to coyotes and it seems from this thread that that's likely the case more broadly. For some the presence of a coyote is a problem regardless. They're predators, dangerous, rabid, clever, bold etc., and should be eliminated. For others, the emphasis is simply on the safety of their animals.

A few years ago there was a huge ruckus from the Pyrs in their run behind the barn. I was close by and went out to see 2 coyotes passing through the hayfield just past the run. It was the middle of the afternoon--broad daylight--the dogs were going ape and the coyotes trotted along as if nothing was happening. Didn't run, didn't even looked over in the direction of the dogs. Just trotted on by, across the field and into a holler. I was completely struck by their composure. I've lost more than a few animals, mostly poultry, to predators. a lot of them in the barn and some outside. To the very best of my knowledge, none of it has been to coyotes. Its been coons, fox, possum, and occasionally a hawk or owl. Maybe a snake or 2 has gotten ahold of a chick. I know that's who does it because I've trapped and killed all those except the hawks or owls. I have free range poultry of various sorts, most of which roost in the barn, some that don't, and sheep and goats on pasture behind stock panels. The dogs are out at night but not directly in the stock pen.

I hear the yotes yipping and singing all the time, but as best I can tell, and I'm NOT a casual observer in this matter, they leave us alone. That despite that I'd swear there's a den in the holler not 80 yards from the barn from the closeness and constancy of the yipping. So I said to myself, if they're leaving us alone, what are they living on. Well, no doubt rodents, snakes and such, but probably some of those coons and possum too, and maybe a sick or injured fox if they got lucky. As well as a young, injured or wounded deer on occasion. So I've kind of adopted the view that maybe in this particular circumstance they're actually on our side rather than agin' us. Not to mention that its fascinating to listen to coyotes yip and sing and the oldest Pyr yowl and sing in reply...then the coyotes again and my girl answers again. Humans are predators also at times, and I have very direct experience with that as well. But I don't think its necessary or wise to trap or shoot everything with 2 legs that shows up on the property...though there are times I'd dearly love to make an exception.
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Old 07/03/11, 07:48 AM
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here we get an eastern wolf x coyote - they are big and have the worst (or best) traits of each species .. they are a problem in our county without doubt ... making me turn down some sheep this spring in fact as feeding the coyotes isn't why I want sheep..

Our (non LG) dogs are vigilant and we have a solar light around the coop but I still worry a little ... I do LOVE hearing them yip to each other ..
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If this pack isn't bothering your animals I would leave it alone. They are keeping the coon and other riff raff down and might be keeping other coyotes that would prey on your animals away.

The best thing is to beef up your fencing because there is always something that wants to eat your animals.
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Old 07/03/11, 10:11 AM
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At this point, I am not really inclined to go hunting for them...if they leave me alone, I iwll leave them alone. They sound to be back by the dump, quite a distance off. But I am definitely aware of their presence and will be making some changes in fencing as well.
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I agree with Harbinger.. We have always had coyotes around. We have never lost a calf to coyotes, the only problem we had with them was when we had sheep and did NOT keep them in a proper enclosure at night. We sold the sheep until we were able to build a proper fence to keep them in at night; ended up replacing them with goats and have had no problems since (knock on wood). We do contain the goats and chickens at night close to the house where we would likely hear if anything attacked them. They probably wouldnt last long otherwise, that is just a part of where we live... There are predators that we have to deal with. In our case it just made more sense to work on fencing and lock up everything at night. To be honest I am much more fearful of roaming dogs than coyotes..

ETA: Sorry, havent been on in a few days and didnt realize that this was several days old.. Didnt mean to beat a dead horse...

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