Tell me shes ugly

I wouldn't buy her. She is not in the best body condition, and I suspect the reason she didn't breed was probably malnutrition. That is also why she is small. If she has been running with meat goats, that is another red flag. Don't get her.

I think I am going to pass, shes a nicely built girl but for $75 more I can have a fresh lamanach yearling from Montage which is what I want.
My goals are to have what Im going to have by the end of the year so I have 4 does milking half the year and the other 4 the rest (or maybe 6 if I can get a milker) and Im about there. I want to get all the testing and certs redone as well.

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De @ Udderly Southern Dairy Goats
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Cannon Farms, if you are patient, you can have as many does as you want without buying any more (but anything from Montage is going to be good). Goats reproduce rapidly so there isn't really any point in buying more than two does to start your herd. My parents started with three does, and within five years were milking 15-20 does, all descended from those three does. That doesn't include the many does that they sold during that time. They bought their first goats in 1999, and from those three does, there are to date 119 registered does that carry their herd name, another 28 that carry my herd name, and three that carry my youngest sister's herdname. This is a total of 150 does born in 11 years, descended from three does. Of course most of these goats have been sold or have died, but it shows you how quickly goats multiply... I didn't include buck kids in the count, but fewer buck kids were registered. If you consider that there is an average 1:1 doe:buck ratio, we can assume that there would have been approximately 300 descendents of those three does born in 11 years, just in our combined herds. This does not count descendents of does or bucks that were sold; just those carrying our herdnames.

Im trying to afford the best I can and improve when I can, my older saanen needs to be retired in the worst way. I have two nubian does, one if she doesnt get some length on her teats shes out of the run so that leaves a lamancha doe, one nubian and a 3 month old Saanen, I have another nubian milker but her feet are in very bad shape, though shes making progress shes still lame and we are not certain on her future but I believe shell recover.
Right now Im laying the foundation I know Ill have kids soon enough but I really dont have "time" to wait a year or so to get this off the ground, milk is the priority.
If you hear of something under 2 reasonable lmk. Cams going to AI a couple of my does for me so that I get some good blood to keep.

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De @ Udderly Southern Dairy Goats
we will be adding a new breed in the spring

But I thought your goat herd was all set & you weren't getting any more goats? Hmmmmm.....

I get discouraged I have failed to make this into a successful business but too stuborn to give up. Everything is on the back burner for this year but I plan on giving it a good go by this next year. I never worked with the first two kids and I would love to get something going to where I could make enough to stay home with the last three.

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De @ Udderly Southern Dairy Goats
we will be adding a new breed in the spring

Sorry I had not been back to this thread. Cannon, by "lines" I mean "conformation lines", not "blood lines". I should have been more specific.

I am going for the more fine-boned, deer-looking Alpines, rather than the larger, more coarse (to my mind) Alpines.

~hugs~ I know how frustrating it is when you are trying to make something a business. My DH, until last month actually, considered the goats to be my hobby. I have spent YEARS trying to get him to understand that I wanted them as a business, not a hobby, and not only got no support in that endeavor, but got no understanding either.

Then, just last month, the lightbulb went off over his head, "Oh, you can make MONEY with them?!" Uhh, yeah, duh! :

So, FINALLY getting some support in that direction, but it is not easy. Until now, my goats have cost me. Not a WHOLE lot, but there was some cost. Next year, I hope to break even and perhaps the year after that, I can make some actual decent money.

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Peace,
Caliann

"First, Show me in the Bible where it says you can save someone's soul by annoying the hell out of them." -- Chuck

Well, since you asked me to...

I DO think she's kind of ugly.

Don't worry, it will all work out so don't get discouraged. It's awfully hard I bet to be pregnant & have little ones(human)running around, do all the chores, take care of the house & the kids!

Well now that I know who it is that's selling her, I can tell you they are moving out of state, and are advertising all over to sell livestock. If anyone else is interested in her, they might take an offer. I am emailing them now about buying some of their Ancona ducks (I already bought 2 dozen hatching eggs from them but laying adults would be eggs to eat sooner). The meat goats she runs with are Pygmy, not Boer if it matters. They haven't had her very long, they told me when I bought the eggs they "just got their first full size goat recently." They have a lovely place and seem to be really nice folks. They have cotton patch geese as well but I don't know if they are selling them.

-Sonja

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New Market, Alabama

Bloodlines? Pedigree?

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she was ran with fainters before and for me, an unproven open yearling with no physical testing being done 175 was a bit much and in the shape I am in I cant depend on my kids to take care of her and I cant tote water so for me its a pass. She is a pretty goat though and if I wasnt so miserably pregnant or running on a tight budget I would get here even still.

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I'm a goat person, not a people person,
De @ Udderly Southern Dairy Goats
we will be adding a new breed in the spring