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Old 06/26/11, 06:29 PM
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I don't think there ARE killer auctions in the U.S. any more.
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Yes there are, New Holland for one. They just ship them over to Mexico now since the US slaughter houses are closed.

There certainly are slaughter auctions in the U.S. unfortunately. Blue Run Farm is correct, they ship to Mexico as well as Canada. There's Camelot in NJ and Unadilla, too, both of which do business with kill buyers. From what I understand New Holland is the worst about horses ending up in the slaughter trucks. It's not a pretty end at all. The transport trucks aren't made for such tall animals and many of the horses are injured horrifically by the time they get to the slaughter house where they're kept in very poor conditions until they're killed.
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Old 06/26/11, 11:11 PM
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~sighs~ If I had a back hoe, I'd put them down myself... at least I'd be humane and quick. But I do not have anyway to bury them.
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Old 06/27/11, 05:35 AM
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I have never heard of such a thing, but I bet your right, they think it's a game. I guess I'm really fortunate that my mare adores the goats. She'll even share her food.She was a rescue too.
Yes, we went thru the same thing in late Winter, our rescue horse picked up our pregnant boer cross momma and shook her like a rag doll, killing her. I am pretty sure he was trying to get her to play, but he is now gone. We gave him to a horse rescue, they sold him. Everyone had always got along so well. Very traumatic for sure. No more horses here.
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Old 06/27/11, 09:24 AM
 
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When my husband was a really litttle kid, he watched a donkey kick a goat that had gotten stuck in the mud, and pound it until it died~said it was one of the worst things he ever witnessed. About a year ago, one of our neighbors pygmy goats got loose and ended up in another neighbors field. The mules and horses in that field tried to kill it. It got itself under a piece of farm equipment while those equines circled and circled, trying to find a way to get to it. A person walking by (the one who told us about it) had to crawl through the barb wire and try to drive the horses/mules off so he could rescue the poor goatio. He said that the mules were the worst.
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Old 06/27/11, 10:58 AM
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One of the auction houses in western Kentucky has a guy drive in every horse auction night and he buys a truck load to take to market.
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~sighs~ If I had a back hoe, I'd put them down myself... at least I'd be humane and quick. But I do not have anyway to bury them.
You don't have to bury them. Go to the Extreme Composting Thread. If you have access to a lot of dried leaves or wood chips you can compost them.

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Old 06/28/11, 12:02 AM
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If you have access to a lot of dried leaves or wood chips you can compost them.
I am afraid that I have access to about one cubic foot of pine pellets used as kitty litter per week. I live on Blackland Prairie. Very little in trees, and what ones we have, we don't want to turn into wood chips.

Ummmm, I have dust! And a small pile of horse and goat poop! And some dead grass, but I am afraid to cut it for fear that the last of my topsoil will blow away.
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Old 06/28/11, 11:49 AM
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~sighs~ If I had a back hoe, I'd put them down myself... at least I'd be humane and quick. But I do not have anyway to bury them.
See if your county will come out and bury them on your property. Ours does. If not see if they can go to the landfill for burial if you can't rehome them.

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Old 06/28/11, 12:11 PM
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I hope you're able to find someone to give a good home to the mare and filly.

I do horse rescue - work my brains and body out doing it, but I wouldn't look to a rescue to take them - they are so beyond flooded, as am I, across the USA - The chaces are slim; however, if you PM me your email address - I will network with the extensive group of folks I know in Texas that do foster and rescue, and I will do my best to get them out of there -

We have 8 horses and two mini donkeys, and none of these ever bother the goats, but I've had a few in the past that would do the same thing you're talking about the goats and dogs.

PM me - I'll try to help.
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Old 06/28/11, 04:08 PM
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PMed you Creamers. Just to let you know, I heard back from the young woman and her DH put his foot down, no more horses. So still working on if I can work a trade with Melanie or Jose.

I am NOT sitting on my hands over these horses.... it is simply that there are not a lot of options available.
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Old 06/28/11, 06:12 PM
 
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I would check and see if there are any big cat rescues or big cat zoos they always take horses for meat and most pick up for you. And if they are non profit you can get a tax credit for your donation.
I have had goats and horses together for years with no issues but my Rottweiler was laying in the sun one day taking a nap and my super quiet in your pocket quarter horse decided to go over and stomp on the poor dog. Not once but over and over. I beat the living hell out of the horse to get him to leave. I left welts on his hide and I did not feel bad one bit for him. The dog lived but would occasionally get a little sore. Never bothered any other dog goat horse or calf after a swift kick in the a** from my fan rake!
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Old 06/29/11, 12:12 AM
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Today I took the goats out to browse, armed with a lunge whip and a shepherd's crook. The goats ran into the pasture and acted like they were STARVING to death, even though they have had an all-they-could-eat buffet of alfalfa pellets and hay.

The mare and filly started to try to rush the goats, but I caught their eyes and brandished crook and whip at them...so instead, they snuck into the corral to scarf some of the alfalfa pellets instead.

Hope I can get some place for them. The poor goats are tired of being cooped up.
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Old 06/29/11, 12:21 AM
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Around here you can call a rendering plant to come pick up large animals that have died. The truck stinks something awful but the cost isn't bad. Call around and see if you can find someplace that picks up dead large animals, make an appointment for them to come pick them up and then go shoot them. Unfortunately in this economy, horses are just too much of a luxury for most people.
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Old 06/29/11, 12:23 AM
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Alternating an option until you can rehome the horses? Goats out during the day to browse and then horses out at night?
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Old 06/29/11, 01:23 AM
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We have a rendering plant here too. I forgot about them. They don't charge at all to come out and pick up deceased animals.
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Yep I think the zoo would be an option worth checking out.
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Old 06/29/11, 04:42 PM
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If I can't find places for them as living horses by the middle of next week, I will start investigating zoos, rendering plants, and other dead options for them.
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Old 06/30/11, 09:47 PM
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Great news folks!

My farrier came by this evening and took the problem mare and her even more problematic filly, and left an 18 month old thoroughbred filly in their place that is gentle with, or ignores, small stock! Yay! No horses had to die.

Turns out, my farrier does his own rescuing, but of Quarter Horses. He had taken in a thoroughbred that he would really rather not have. He also believes that he can fix the mare's stifle/loose patella without much difficulty.... and I now have a pretty, sweet thoroughbred filly that wants to live in my back pocket.

W00T! Yay!
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Old 06/30/11, 09:57 PM
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Great news folks!

My farrier came by this evening and took the problem mare and her even more problematic filly, and left an 18 month old thoroughbred filly in their place that is gentle with, or ignores, small stock! Yay! No horses had to die.

Turns out, my farrier does his own rescuing, but of Quarter Horses. He had taken in a thoroughbred that he would really rather not have. He also believes that he can fix the mare's stifle/loose patella without much difficulty.... and I now have a pretty, sweet thoroughbred filly that wants to live in my back pocket.

W00T! Yay!
That is so great to hear.
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Old 06/30/11, 10:00 PM
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Wow! Good for you! and the horses that needed a home
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