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Old 06/16/11, 08:34 PM
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Great link! As I was looking, I found 3 deaths from pasteurized milk in the U.S., and none from Raw Milk! Only 4 people have been ill in TN in those years, too.
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Old 06/16/11, 08:45 PM
 
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And yet raw milk sales are strictly illegal here in Ohio.

Ironically, it's o.k. to sell cigarettes, though.
In Ohio, "selling" raw cow milk is illegal. However, "herdshares" have been upheld in court........much to the dismay and frustration of the Dairy Division of the Ohio Dept. of Agriculture.

It is legal in Ohio to sell raw goat milk for animal feed, as long as it is properly labeled (e.g. Raw Goat Milk, the amount, and the farm where it was produced)
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Old 06/17/11, 08:30 PM
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The mindset against unprocessed foods is aggravating to me. I visited a small herd of dairy goats last night and learned to hand milk. I was sent home with a pint of lovely fresh milk. The first question I was asked by a friend was, "You're not really going to drink that are you?!" We have hens and love to share our fresh eggs with family and friends. My brother-in-law absolutely will not eat them because he said, "They've not been inspected by the FDA." Wha..?!?!? Raw milk, fresh produce, eggs and meats are so good for you and it boggles my mind that the majority (of people I know) prefer factory-farmed, over-processed products because of what they THINK they know about fresh unprocessed products. Eeesh. Sorry for hoppin' on my soapbox, y'all!
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Old 06/17/11, 08:40 PM
 
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My first post in the forum due to a very important-to-me issue. We get raw milk but through some legal loopholes. It's my dream to have goats so we could have our own raw milk. It's interesting to learn the history of (not like I know it thoroughly) pasteurization. Healthy animals and clean milking/storage practices make for healthy food, IMO.

I'm jealous of all of you who have your own milking does!! Just want to hang around here and learn more.
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Old 06/17/11, 09:35 PM
 
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Looks as if Michigan had 6 @ a church or temple (confirmed). Very small percentage reported for sure!!
The reporting system is kind of unique. Only confirmed (lab tested) cases of diseases are reported. If you go to your doctor and he says, "it looks like food poisoning (or whatever)" then gives you antibiotics and you get well, it's not reported as that specific disease. But if they test it, and it is lab identified as abc, it is reported. They are only mandated to report confirmed cases of a disease because they follow the exact type of bacteria or strain of virus in reporting confirmed cases.
Sometimes they report suspected numbers, but it isn't mandatory in all states for them to do that for suspected cases, so it's not always done.
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Old 06/17/11, 09:43 PM
 
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The first question I was asked by a friend was, "You're not really going to drink that are you?!" We have hens and love to share our fresh eggs with family and friends. My brother-in-law absolutely will not eat them because he said, "They've not been inspected by the FDA."
One of our friends let her son have chickens for 4h years back. She wouldn't touch them because "they were dirty". She sent them to our house. (WooHoo) I had told her to simply wash them, but she was sure that the grocery store eggs were better. Years went by, and she developed cancer. She went to a naturopathic doctor for the disease. He told her she needed to eat fresh eggs, raw milk, organic foods, etc. All of a sudden she needed eggs and milk after all those years of throwing it away and sending it out to others because it was too dirty for her. It's sad because for several years she was sending away fresh milk, eggs, veggies from the kid's garden, and then all of a sudden when the boy had outgrown 4h she needed them.
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Old 06/17/11, 10:02 PM
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In Ohio, "selling" raw cow milk is illegal. However, "herdshares" have been upheld in court........much to the dismay and frustration of the Dairy Division of the Ohio Dept. of Agriculture.

It is legal in Ohio to sell raw goat milk for animal feed, as long as it is properly labeled (e.g. Raw Goat Milk, the amount, and the farm where it was produced)
Which is why I consider moving from WV over to Ohio
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Old 06/17/11, 10:29 PM
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My first post in the forum due to a very important-to-me issue. We get raw milk but through some legal loopholes. It's my dream to have goats so we could have our own raw milk. It's interesting to learn the history of (not like I know it thoroughly) pasteurization. Healthy animals and clean milking/storage practices make for healthy food, IMO.

I'm jealous of all of you who have your own milking does!! Just want to hang around here and learn more.
Come on over to the udder side of life - it's worth the trip.
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Old 06/18/11, 01:36 PM
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My first post in the forum due to a very important-to-me issue. We get raw milk but through some legal loopholes. It's my dream to have goats so we could have our own raw milk. It's interesting to learn the history of (not like I know it thoroughly) pasteurization. Healthy animals and clean milking/storage practices make for healthy food, IMO.

I'm jealous of all of you who have your own milking does!! Just want to hang around here and learn more.
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Old 06/18/11, 01:44 PM
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The mindset against unprocessed foods is aggravating to me. I visited a small herd of dairy goats last night and learned to hand milk. I was sent home with a pint of lovely fresh milk. The first question I was asked by a friend was, "You're not really going to drink that are you?!" We have hens and love to share our fresh eggs with family and friends. My brother-in-law absolutely will not eat them because he said, "They've not been inspected by the FDA." Wha..?!?!? Raw milk, fresh produce, eggs and meats are so good for you and it boggles my mind that the majority (of people I know) prefer factory-farmed, over-processed products because of what they THINK they know about fresh unprocessed products. Eeesh. Sorry for hoppin' on my soapbox, y'all!
See, I stopped eating eggs for the better part of my life, after visiting a commercial egg farm as part of poultry judging in 4-H. The smell in that place is still stamped into my brain, decades later. I had to throw away the clothes and shoes I wore that day too, as nothing would get the stench out. The poor hens crammed in 10 to a cage that I could reach all corners of (I know cause I had to pull them out to judge them). Just sad and filthy. Not until pasteurized eggs became available did I start eating them again, until we bought our little farm here and finally got hens old enough to get our own eggs from.

My family loves the fresh eggs we give them but none have been "brave" enough to try the raw goats' milk yet. Or eat any of our chevon enchiladas either. Which is fine, more for us.
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