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Old 05/11/11, 02:22 PM
 
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the sheep vaccine is also off lable to goats. If you dont feel comfortable using it great don't. The vets around here recomend it and say it is a paper game while we wait for it to be labled.

that is why everyone needs to do their own research and check multiple sources. http://www.jackmauldin.com/diseases.htm and http://www.tennesseemeatgoats.com/ar....html#Articles

and talk to their vets.

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Old 05/11/11, 03:05 PM
 
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If there is a vaccine it would be better to prevent it than try to fix it.
I agree with you on this. I know they have been talking about a caprine version coming out for a long time. Unfortunately, in this nation, there isn't a lot of anything made specially for caprine. Almost everything is used as a cross species med because there isn't a lot of money in goats for the pharmaceutical companies. And many of the off labels med/vaccines we use work.
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Old 05/11/11, 03:18 PM
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it is now for goats.
People have used it for years on goats off label, as we do a lot of other things. You implied that it was labeled for goats as of recently. I just wanted people to understand, that it was not labeled for goats and to proceed at there own risk.
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Old 05/11/11, 03:33 PM
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Here's a link to an article if people want to read research based information instead of opinions.
http://www.vet.ksu.edu/depts/vmth/ag...eous_Lymph.pdf

The info there is about sheep. If someone has research and citations about goats, I'd appreciate it if you'd post them.

The vaccine offered at Jeffers Livestock is for sheep, and it says so on the label. The article referenced about says that for sheep, vaccinating will result in animals who test positive for the disease. That's not really a surprise.

I'd like to see results of caprine controlled testing.

Until that time, I'll just buy from clean herds only.
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I believe all zoonotic disease (animal) vaccines that have the possibility of infecting humans are killed. I might be wrong, but I believe this is the case of all zoonotic diseases. I only took a few courses on animal diseases and husbandry in college (way in the past) so I could be wrong.
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Old 05/11/11, 03:43 PM
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Alice Yes, it says it is a killed bacterin toxoid. http://www.colorado-serum.com/csc/case_bac.html

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Old 05/11/11, 04:34 PM
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exactly.. buy clean, stay clean.. SELL clean.. and you won't have to worry do you vaccinate/do you not vaccinate...

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You posted People have used it for years on goats off label, as we do a lot of other things. You implied that it was labeled for goats as of recently. I just wanted people to understand, that it was not labeled for goats and to proceed at there own risk.
We won't buy from people who use the CL vaccine, since it is for sheep and not goats, and therfore has a risk of doing far more bad than good.
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I don't know if there is a risk of it "doing bad" but it can make them test positive when they don't have the disease.
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But on boards like this where people scream about it killing people all the time, and talk like masses are infected with it every year, it scares people. It dissuades some from even having goats which is such a shame. Spreading unrealistic panic is not good.
Waitaminit.

I obviously missed something.

Would you please direct me to the posts where "people scream about it killing people all the time;" talking "like masses are infected with it;" and "spreading unrealistic panic"?

Hm. Are we reading the same forum???
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