WOW! Goat's Milk on CL

I could be wrong, but I think in the state of Arkansas you have to sell it directly from your farm. You cannot deliver it or sell it at a swap type thing. They have to physically come to your farm to purchase it. Need to look that up as I have three does that will kid at the end of the month.

My customers pay $8/gal unless they order in smaller quantities than it's more. The upside to Oregon is we can sell it on our farm without a license but we can't advertise other than word of mouth.

I got flagged on cl the other day because I was looking for dairy bull calves or bummer lambs and mentioned that I had a ton of goats milk to feed them. No intention of selling the milk but still got flagged. I reserve all the milk for my garden customers if it's not used for personal use or raising other stock. Go figure.

$4-6 a quart on CL. $3 a quart in real life. Those ads aren't legal in Oregon either, while you can sell it as "pet food", you can not advertise. I sell to a select group of local people for $6 a half gallon, a dollar deposit on the jar or they bring their own. I just use half gallon canning jars with plastic lids.

Here in CO you have to do dairy shares which is truly stupid since they are still buying raw milk.

If you sell it for pet consumption, blue food dye has to be used and it sells for $5 a gallon.

If you do milk shares, you have to buy into it the herd some charge $20 start up fee, some charge $40. Then you have to pay monthly and it the cost for a gallon of milk per week is about $10 a gallon.

This is why I do not bother to do that here. It is such a hassle I just sell kids or does in milk.

Caliann not where the wind goes sweeping through the state MO the goat capital where it is legal to sell it.

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Wow! I put up an ad last year looking for goat's milk for pet use on an online classifieds. I had a couple of bottle calves that I thought would grow better on the goat's milk than milk replacer. I didn't have any idea that it would have been so expensive. (though honestly wondering how many gallons a bag of milk replacer makes verses paying $6-8 gallon for fresh goats milk?) Unfortunately, no one responded to my ad!

I got a milk customer by advertising on CL that I had free whey left over from cheese making. They could make ricotta if they wanted.

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CL listings here (legal) for $8/gallon

Well, here in Ohio, raw milk sales are completely illegal, no loopholes. And yet, raw goat's milk only goes for $6 a gallon if you can get it. I think that's just because most people will only sell to family or close friends.

Ugh.....are you serious??? So much for thinking I was following the rules!

I can't even give it away or barter???!!!!! What on earth am I legally allowed??!!

Guess I need to do a bit research on the laws here I suppose....

To be fair though....the tech and her hubby make moonshine & homemade wine and "sell" it, so at least I don't have to worry about them snitching on me

Why on earth does it have to be dyed with nasty dye?? Blue is blue right??

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In Ohio, as of .....I believe it changed in May of 2010, you can sell raw goat milk for animal feed without any regulation as long as it is labeled with the contents, the amount, and your name/farm name, and the town.

If you want the documentation of that, PM me.....and I will see if I can track it down in the Adminstrative Code of the ODA.......or you can call the person in charge of the Animal Feed division of the ODA (he is the person who changed the rule).

Herd Shares were upheld in court......the case involved Carol Schmitmeyer (sp?). The ODA does not like it. But the "dirtly little secret," is that all their rules and regualtions do not really mean much until they are tested in court. And if the court does not rule in their favor, then that rule is "nul and void." Thus, the reality is ......if the ODA knows that someone will fight them in court, then they usually do not bother them.

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You are, by state laws, legally allowed to DRINK your own milk, or otherwise process it for your own uses and that of your immediate family ONLY. Otherwise, you may serve your milk or milk products at your own table, even to guests, but that is it.

Anyone who thinks that maybe because Texas is generally Republican that we might have a bit more charitable view about staying out of homesteader's business is SO wrong. Texas is just really good at HIDING the suffocating legislature.

IT IS LEGAL TO SELL RAW MILK IN TEXAS! ...as long as you have a boatload of permits and licenses costing as much as $6,000 per year, are Federally inspected, etc....

IT IS LEGAL TO HAVE GUNS IN TEXAS! ...but you can't take them off your property, legally, unless you have a hunting permit ON you, and it is season, and you can show you are going hunting...otherwise, better invest in a permit from the state....


IT IS LEGAL TO....awww, I think you get the picture.

The *special* blue dye has a nasty flavor to it...so it not only colors the milk, it flavors it....and that "flavor" is unpalatable to both man and beast. My cats won't drink milk treated with it. My dogs won't drink milk treated with it. Even my chickens won't drink milk treated with it. And the reason for it is because if even pets and livestock won't consume raw milk with the blue dye, then NO ONE is going to buy or sell raw milk legally, will they?

~chuckles~ I was reading a study the other day, it wasn't on the dyes, it was on sexing semen and such as that, but the author made an aside that raw milk is currently the most briskly traded underground substance in the U.S.

Folks, our illegal sales are beating out *crack and meth*. LOL

Sorry, I find myself, in my old age and with grandchildren, having to see myself as some criminal like a drug dealer because I sometimes sell milk and cheese to my neighbors.

~puts on her trenchcoat and goes skulking around Jr. High Schools~ "Psssst....hey kid...." ~looks around for possible eavesdroppers~ "I got homemade chevre...and even the raw stuff, real milk....."

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LOL. Never heard of the blue dye business - and I thought the Lone Star State - the home of the Alamo - well, I'm shocked they have so many restrictions! That's crazy!

As others have said, in Oregon you can't advertise but as long as you have 9 or fewer does in milk you can sell directly from the farm (3 cows if you sell cow's milk). Herdshares are done here as well.

$3 for a half gallon is pretty standard around here for cows milk and goats milk.

It is legal to do herdshares here, but it is illegal to advertise them.

I'll have to look up selling "bath milk".

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LOL Caliann! "Here's a picture of old Granny Surplus. She bootlegged raw milk...."

In Vermont, it's legal to sell raw milk for human consumption, if you are selling it on-farm. You can't sell raw milk at farmers markets or anywhere that's not on the farm, and you need to have the following disclaimer posted and clearly visible near the sale fridge:

WARNING: This product has not been pasteurized and therefore may contain harmful bacteria that can cause illness particularly in children, the elderly, and persons with weakened immune systems and in pregnant women can cause illness, miscarriage or fetal death, or death of a newborn.



You also don't need a license to own a gun in Vermont...I'll leave you to draw your own conclusions on that one...

That's crazy...I had no idea that the laws were so strict in other states...I've never heard of blue dye in milk...

Illegal to even give it away here

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MONTANA & TEXAS??!! Two of the states I think of as being less-intrusive! Are you kidding me?! Crazy! And I can't believe the required signage in Vermont! I'm shocked. I knew that raw milk was more of an issue in some states and less of an issue in others but this is just amazing to me!

I knew Texas was sneaky-restrictive - but I am shocked about Montana, too!

In KS we can put up a sign on our property that we have milk for sale & people can come to the farm to buy. No other advertising, etc. We are required to label it raw & unpasteurized. I do still see CL advertisements in the KC area - but not many....

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When you think of politicians, political parties, etc., keep this quote in mind:

"Methinks the lady doth protest too much."

Hie thee and go look at which states are controlled by whom. Think of what each political party tends to scream the most about (besides the inflammatory three that are used to distract us from real issues: gay marriage, abortion, and "family values") and then look at the states controlled by those parties.

Which party screams about deregulation, small government, and staying out of the pockets of small business? And WHAT do their states look like?

Which party screams about green energy, gun control, regulation? And WHAT do their states look like?

~sighs~ You can't even trust evil to be evil anymore.

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