Meningeal Worm - Itching and meds question

I gave both dex and banamine Saturday, as well as penG due to the immune suppression from the dex.

I was going to follow up with another dose of each yesterday, but forgot. (We're off farm so much, it's hard to stay awake sometimes.)

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Pony - you never really said what your goat's symptoms were in this thread. Is there scratching?

I know there are some people who avoid steroid use. While I am generally conservative in my use of meds, I don't hesitate to use dex for situations I consider dire: to me, pneumonia, down goat, and meningeal worm are dire situations.

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Actually, she was scratching a couple of weeks ago. We initially blamed it on her worrying at yellow jacket stings, then I saw the pics here.

But I really didn't put it together until her left rear leg started to have a mind of its own. She did not bear weight on it, but there was no pain on manipulation, neither was there any swelling, discoloration, or lesions. Yet her leg seemed to almost levitate and push to the outside. Saturday night, it looked as though she was trying to do the can-can.

Meningeal was in the back of my mind when I contacted Emily to double check my banamine dosage. When she almost apologetically asked if I'd considered meningeal worm, I knew that must be it.

That's when I hit the boards and sites and contacted any and everyone I know who'd have half an idea of how to treat.

I thank God for goat folks. We pull together and do our best to help each other, and it's times like this that humble me and make me even more eager to learn and help.

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That's right - I remember you mentioning yellow jacket sting.

I am by no means a goat pro...but I'm more than happy to share the info I have on Meningeal worm. It makes me angry that I paid money (a lot) on the original large animal vet who gave ZERO help. I am SO grateful to the UGA vet for her invaluable help....and to google

Agreed - just don't go more than a couple of days and remember to wean off the dex

Forgot to mention that I picked up a bottle of red cell for her today, will dose her with that and another B complex injection when I get home tonight.

She already gives me a suspicious look when I walk into the goat field. Have to figure out a way to hide the syringes while holding out an apple...

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You're definitely hitting her with a lot....but as you said. it's a dire situation.

My guys don't even need to be tied up to get an injection or don't even feel it if there's a feed bucket in front of them. And one just small enough for one goat head so they have to work for it. And corn tortilla chips? Fagetaboutit

Keep us posted

I don't know if our area is the one that's developed resistance, but another local used ivomec for a positive fecal of BPW and her gal recovered well.

It seems that there are a LOT of treatment resistant worms. <sigh>

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I'd have to wrestle my goats to get Red Cell into them. I think it's mostly an iron supp. When I suspected BP and anemia, I just put iron caplets in their feed. They were none the wiser.

At this point I'm sure you have all figured out that mine will do anything for grain or treats. I starve them. Ha! And yet they are fat

With just a few goats, a gallon of Red Cell seemed silly. So I tried Geritol. It worked great on BP anemia. And the goats would tackle me to get to it! They'd lap it up like dogs.

It's not really difficult to treat our herd. The goats are pretty cooperative. (The sheep, OTOH... Oy!)

Our herd is healthy. Some would say they're fat, but they breed well, and we've not had birthing problems. They're just not emaciated. I think their good condition is what's kept Trub from getting hit too hard. I hope so, anyway.

Clovers Clan, our MFA has quart-sized Red Cell. Seemed like a good investment.

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Nice tip!

Pony - how much Ivermectic are you injecting? My dosages are confusing if I look back on what the UGA vet suggested. I can see why motdaugrnds was going to give 45 cc. I guess I need to look back at my notes, but it looks like the first preventative dose is 10x more than what she said later, which was 1ml per 55 pounds.

Yes....I think I have yet another doe with MW

Regarding the previous dosage for preventative dosage of Ivermectin: This was directly from the vets email, but 200mg/kg just does not seem right to me. Later (also in an email) she said 1 ml per 55 lbs. Please get better advice on this dosage of Ivermectin for preventative