Vaccination for CDT

julieq · #21 04/30/13, 07:27 PM

Kids cannot produce antibodies until they are about eight weeks old, so we never give immunizations before that time.

**mygoat** · #22 04/30/13, 07:33 PM

I've always learned that Kids can produce antibodies long before 8 weeks of age. The earliest it is suggested to vaccinate is 3 weeks of age. Effective immunization begins at 4 weeks here. 2nd booster at 8 weeks.

For passive immunity, I vaccinate does 4 weeks prior to kidding. Also give BoSe and copper at this time, as well.

If I do not know when the doe was vaccinated, I vaccinate at 3 and 6 weeks of age.

bluefish · #23 04/30/13, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jordan

I stopped giving CDT 5 years ago after a doe I vaccinated died shortly there after from entero. 3 other breeders I know of reported related illnesses and/or losses after vaccinating that year too. Because we had just vaccinated, the vet had sort of ruled that out until we did the necropsy.
It was my choice to make, and I don't force it on anyone else. I do vaccinate the kids that I sell unless a buyer requests that I don't. I have had no issues since stopping and since my goal was to minimize the use of chemicals on the farm and in my animals, that was one I felt I could let go of since I wasn't all that convinced it was doing what it is supposed to anyway.

Frankly, I was surprized when I discovered how many breeders have actually stopped giving it over the last few years and how many buyers have asked me not to administer it to kids they had bought. I had thought I was all alone!
I don't get flu shots for myself either
Lois

Ditto. Coincidence or no, I haven't had any issues since stopping. I figure stuff happens and it will ALWAYS happen to the best/most valuable animal I have no matter what anyway.

Minelson · #24 04/30/13, 07:49 PM

Great topic to bring up...since I just vaccinated all of mine last weekend..

julieq · #25 04/30/13, 09:10 PM

"At about 10 weeks those colostrum antibodies are wearing off and the kid is developing its own immune system. This is the time to start vaccinating kids. "

http://www.npga-pygmy.com/resources/...ccinations.asp

I know there are probably many different opinions on goats, but humans don't develop their own antibodies until about eight weeks of age (DH treated allergy patients for years).

PKBoo · #26 04/30/13, 09:27 PM

Do you use just the CDT vaccine, or Covexin 8, and why?

Bearfootfarm · #27 04/30/13, 09:32 PM

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unless for some reason one has rusty sharp objects lying about?

Tetanus can enter the body through ANY open wound, although puncture wounds are more dangerous.
Rust has nothing to do with it at all

Frosted Mini's · #28 04/30/13, 09:50 PM

6, 9, 12 weeks. I also give Pasteurella pneumonia vaccine. What I read was that you aren't suppose to use it until 12 weeks, so I do 12 and 16 weeks.

julieq · #29 05/01/13, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearfootfarm

Tetanus can enter the body through ANY open wound, although puncture wounds are more dangerous.
Rust has nothing to do with it at all

We lost a doeling years ago, who was properly immunized, to a puncture wound in her throat. Our vet couldn't find a wound on the initial visit and by the time he thought to scope her it was too late unfortunately.

Ford Zoo · #30 05/01/13, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearfootfarm

Tetanus can enter the body through ANY open wound, although puncture wounds are more dangerous.
Rust has nothing to do with it at all

BFF is correct here. Tetanus lives in the soil and likes dark warm areas to grow in, hence the puncture wounds are more at risk. The rusty metal has always been the accused carrier, but that's because it has been hanging around getting dirty with tetanus for years.

I respect people's choice not to vaccinate, but I think tetanus should be considered a bit differently, especially since it is always present in the goats' environment and the outcome of infection is never good.

LoneStrChic23 · #31 05/01/13, 11:59 AM

I booster my does late pregnancy then all my keeper kids get their first vaccine at 8 weeks old, then a booster in 3 weeks.

saanengirl · #32 05/01/13, 08:33 PM

For those who lost vaccinated animals to entero, you have to realize that there are many strains of clostridium. CD & T gets the most common strains, but does not get all strains. In the case where I have seen vaccinated animals die of entero, it was from a strain of clostridium that they weren't vaccinated against. That is why I switched from CD & T to Covexin 8 since it covers more strains.

yarrow · #33 05/01/13, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by saanengirl

For those who lost vaccinated animals to entero, you have to realize that there are many strains of clostridium. CD & T gets the most common strains, but does not get all strains. In the case where I have seen vaccinated animals die of entero, it was from a strain of clostridium that they weren't vaccinated against. That is why I switched from CD & T to Covexin 8 since it covers more strains.

all of my entro cases were in Covexin 8 vaccinated kids/adult.. I did see that Jeffer's is now selling Colstridium type A vaccine (use to only be in New Zeland)

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