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Old 01/01/11, 11:04 AM
 
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I'm thinking it may be something with your genetics... Our babies generally stand within minutes of birth. Some of the babies the ones that get up and don't want to lay down again(for whatever reason). Get the tendon issue only the front and it only lasts a few days to a week. But they are all up and moving around even with the foot thing.

Do you dam feed at all? With the lack of getting up how do your dams feed them? Are all your goats bottle fed?
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Old 01/01/11, 11:36 AM
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Give Bo-se to does 1 week before kidding and see if kids are better
I had a customer who was having some trouble and she did the Bo-Se and added some Kelp (sold as horse supplement) to the minerals she was using and it seemed to help.
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Old 01/01/11, 11:50 AM
 
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I'm thinking it may be something with your genetics... Our babies generally stand within minutes of birth. Some of the babies the ones that get up and don't want to lay down again(for whatever reason). Get the tendon issue only the front and it only lasts a few days to a week. But they are all up and moving around even with the foot thing.

Do you dam feed at all? With the lack of getting up how do your dams feed them? Are all your goats bottle fed?
No, I don't dam feed. The babies are pulled at birth, given BoSe immediately, and bottle raised on the colostrum and milk from their dam.

I have one more doe due here shortly. I'll go ahead and give her BoSe now and see if it helps.
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Old 01/01/11, 12:06 PM
 
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No, I don't dam feed. The babies are pulled at birth, given BoSe immediately, and bottle raised on the colostrum and milk from their dam.

I have one more doe due here shortly. I'll go ahead and give her BoSe now and see if it helps.

Here we dam raise. Barn born if winter. If it's real cold we will on occasion have to get them dry and belly full before it's back to the barn. If it's warm they are born and kept with the rest of the herd in the pasture. Most of the babies are totally hands off. Bad legs or a failure to stand wouldn't work at all for us.

I hope the pre-birth shot makes the difference. Goats can be frustrating to say the least. Good Luck.
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Old 01/01/11, 12:06 PM
 
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I feel concerned that none of your kids walk right away. We have a few here that have problems standing the first day, and those are usually one of a set of triplets who got squashed in the womb. They are all standing by day two. This sounds like something nutritional. If you have an older goat die it would be a good idea to get a liver test to see what you are lacking. You may also want to get your water tested. A friend was having pastern issues with her goats until she found she had too much sulpher in her well and started filtering her water.
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Old 01/01/11, 12:14 PM
 
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I have had nubian kids born here that had too much leg to stand for a day or two, looked like a goat on stilts but once stood they could walk just fine
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Old 01/01/11, 02:06 PM
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i would consult wit a vet. have a blood mineral analysis done.
what brand is the mineral salt?
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Old 01/01/11, 06:25 PM
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There could be a couple of things going on here. Sometimes it's very difficult to get everything balanced and it can take some trial and error.
First, your mineral seems to be very high in salt. I wonder if that could be keeping them from eating enough of it? I do offer trace mineral salt in the winter to help keep them drinking enough but, it is offered seperately from their loose minerals. The minerals I buy are milled by a small private company so are not available except right here. Sweetlix is fairly comparable though.
GUARANTEED ANALYSIS:

Calcium, Min 14.00%
Calcium, Max 16.80%
Phosphorus, Min 8.00%
Salt, Min 10.00%
Salt, Max 12.00%
Magnesium, Min 1.50%
Potassium, Min 1.50%
Cobalt, Min 240 ppm
Copper, Min 1,750 ppm
Copper, Max 1,810 ppm
Iodine, Min 450 ppm
Manganese, Min 1.25%
Selenium, Min 50 ppm
Zinc, Min 1.25%
Vitamin A, Min 300,000 IU/lb
Vitamin D-3, Min 30,000 IU/lb

You can see it has 1/2 the salt, very high copper and not enough iron to measure.
Another thing is that your mineral is very low in colbalt. Is this something animals need in your area? Colbalt works together with vitamin B-12. Lack of colbalt causes B-12 not to be manufactured in the rumen and can cause a noticable lack of energy and failure to thrive.
Since B vitamins are cheap and easy to find and can't hurt anything, I think I would try giving the one that is still pregnant about 4 to 6 ccs of b-complex orally about every other days until she kids. If this makes a difference you would have a better idea of what is going wrong. I had one kid born last year with vitamin b problems. I found out that flooding in my pasture is washing the colbalt away. Good luck, I hope things start working out better for you.
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