ISO sold/lost doe in Oregon

CaliannG
Thanks so so much!!
See this is the stuff I was expecting/hoping for when I posted last night.
I then was begging to think as today progressed that I was a bit loopy, although I was quite tired when I posted.
I know now what not to do in a situation like this.

So you, my dear goatie friend, and others are what we all need in this world...

I am by the way just a simple country girl, trying to raise my family in peace!!

Have a great night!!

Good luck in finding her. I understand the responsibility that goes with placing a quality animal and the desire to be sure that they land well.

And... Merry Christmas.

I completely understand, I sold a registered TWH yearling that i bred ......The people that bought him from me resold him
and i would love to find him and see how hes doing but they have not transferred his papers into there name.
I want them to know i would buy him back if need be
I hope you can find her

I understand and I hope you find her, at least to keep tabs on her if not to get her back. I sold the first horse I ever bred when finances got tough, 15 years ago. In spite of verbal promises for me to have first buy back and he had a forever home with them, they took him to auction the next month. Very hard lesson learned. I would move heaven and earth to have him back today if I could find him. But I'm pretty sure he went for meat.

Thank you Caliann, that does make sense. I can see now that if a goat is worth more, she may be more assured of a quality life, but there are many of us that don't register or have papers who also treat our goats very very well.

If there was a verbal agreement or written agreement to buy back, I can surely understand your concern. However, I hope and am sure that she, being from good milking lines, is probably being very well cared for and loved.

I did not contact the previous owners of my goats before I sold them. We had no verbal agreement or anything to do so, and the ones I sold went to a loving home where they are well cared for.

I have seen unregistered goats in good conditions and in poor conditions, and sadly I have seen registered goats living in terrible conditions.

This is why I got out of horses.

No matter HOW carefully you check out the buyer, meet the trainer, see the barn, *it happens.

I sold a BEAUTIFUL linebred Skipper W/Goer appy mare several years ago.
Checked out EVERYTHING.
Made her talk to her trainer, barn owner came to meet the horse, met the trainer, it was all SO good.

Within a year or so, there's the mare on the internet, new owner looking for a breeding, mare's hocks are RUINED because the new owner got pregnant and took her home and left her in a round pen for a year to pace and pace and pace.

This mare's sire was a world placer in halter, her dam was the overall high point ammy owner horse of the year, won a trailer, the works, never mind her own stunning personality, conformation, and former movement.

Now she is a cripple and because of the internet I know about it.

I cried for a week over that poor poor dear.
I'm crying now, and it's been eight years.

She was my dream horse, but I was moving from Oregon to Alaska, and I was a horse buyer seller anyway.

An other horse, a really swell well-bred Arab, went to what I thought was an awesome home. The gal had said to stop by any time, so I did, with my mom, to show her this stunning Arab I had sold.

He was a rack.

I decided then and there NEVER to check up on a horse again, and I haven't.

Now I bypass all that and just don't have horses any more.

What people do with their animals is between them and their Heavenly Father.

It is SO hard to remember that.

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Thanks for listening, and I really hope you find your goat, her papers catch up to her, and that she is with a happy happy family who loves her dearly.


Bless up.

Oh my! Poor thing. How can people do this?

Wow!
I really appreciate all the info, shared experiences..etc..

I got word that she may be found!! I am trying to not get my hope up, but who knows how it will turn out?? I do know now that she went to some one that breeds Nigerians. I am hoping to hear from them this next week!! I will keep you all updated!!
As a side note, personally I always contact the breeder I get my goats from before I sell them. I strongly believe in first right for refusal.

Natty Threads,
Bless your heart for your effort with your horses!! Ia m so very sorry!! I will never understand people that do this!!

It's beyond me.

She was such a doll-headed dream horse, too.

Just stunning.

And very personable.

She was kind of witchy- she'd been a bit spoiled as a baby-

But I'll never forget the day I was grooming, she startled then settled, and I looked down to see my not-yet-2 yo daughter had sneaked out on her dad, picked up a brush, and gone to work on her forearm right next to me.

After staying up with her for TWO months- she went a full year her first foal- the breeder's other mares did too-

she foaled in the middle of my driveway at 3 o'clock in the afternoon.

I am SO glad I am no longer in the horse business.

On the plus side, the woman who bought her seemed to really appreciate her and wasn't planning to ride her.

So many people would just inject the hocks and go to town.

Bless up.

That would be perfect.

I don't know how goat papers work, but maybe her papers can catch up to her and she'll be a "set" again.

I do know that one cowboy I worked for in Hermiston had a DRAWER full of registration papers. That was before DNA testing had become so common place.

A lot of times they'd sell a horse without the papers, then if they bought a similar grade horse they had papers for IT.

Egads.

Also, I saw a few instances where horses were sold with the papers, then a few months later the guy would be looking through his stack of registration papers and go - "I sold that horse. Why do I still have the papers? I sold him with papers."-

Oh crikey!



Blessedly, I never saw breeders pull that kind of nonsense.

(I had the patience to sit down and do the paperwork.
I named a lot of foals and filled out a lot of papers and signed quite a few names as well, with permission of course.)

Bless up.

Fingers crossed for you that it is really her.

I think that a sale is a sale unless you have other things in writing about the disposition of the livestock (in this case your papered pet goat).
I bought four goats that came with papers 2 in May and then 2 in October. I have yet to send in the papers. The first two a buck and doe have not produced as expected. The buck has been given away and the doe is with another buck hoping for a breeding. The second two are doing what I expected and when cash comes available their papers will be processed.
Now I have no desire to show so papers are not important but I sure was looking for kids and milk (as promised) from the first doe. Owner told me she was bred to kid in June.
I was lured in to the first sale with the expectation that registered goats were of higher quality than others..not so sometimes, just higher priced!

I do hope you can find out where this little doe is. On the other hand, I can understand the responses of some of the posters. It's just the hard truth that once you sell an animal, it's future can well be out of your hands. I certainly can relate to how you are feeling. A few years ago, I sold two doelings and a buckling to a man working as a caretaker for a wealthy out of state couple. A friend had also sold the landlord four of her goats. When the man bought the goatsfrom me, it was with the understanding that I wanted a kid out of my buck and one of the does my friend sold the landlord. The caretaker wound up getting into an argument with his boss and quit. Shortly thereafter, the boss died and his wife gave the goats away. I still haven't been able to get hold of the doeling I was promised, nor was I able to get my three goats back. I just have to chalk it up to part of being in the business. They may very well be in good homes.
On the other hand, I've found out the fate of a couple other goats I sold. They, too were resold. Both the new owners found me this year through the papers I provided and an ad I had on Craigs list to sell goats. They have wonderful homes and came back here this fall to be bred. Hopefully, your doe found equally as good a new home.

I did have an experience when I first moved out to the country and had my very first goats. I had met alot of goat people in my area. Visited will all the breeders, knew the goat, loved them all so very much. One night I found three Nubians on Craig's List in the barter section!! The guy needed food for his dogs and wanted to trade for the goats. I found myself a few days later picking up the three goats, mind you these goats came with papers. The three had been living for months in a very small enclosure (10x15 maybe) no sunshine ever hit these animals, and here in Oregon, sunshine takes care of alot of mold issues, so for them to live in damp, dark cold area, almost killed them all.
Well, the papers were a blessing. They were all from a woman I had talked to extensively, and visited her farm a few times. The little buckling who was so beautiful, and ever so sick, nearly died. I did get the trio to turn around, gave the buckling back to the breeder.(she was so thankful I contacted her!!!) I kept the does till they were in good shape, and they both went to show homes.
I was at the right place that day, I am so glad there are more people like me out there!! And I still watch Craig's List for rescues!!

We have been really blessed with regards to placement. I can't say that I keep on constant tough with every buyer but I do on occasion with most and the animals seem to be doing well.

I sold two pet goats last year to one single bachelor. I was a little tenuous so checked him out well. I get pictures of those two very obviously healthy, happy goats all the time. The pics usually show the two goats lounging on his hammock.

I love when buyers send pics and keep in touch!! It's awesome!!

Still no news on Gredel, but it was a buzy week end for most.