How do you steal cud?

Alice In TX/MO · #21 10/16/10, 03:25 PM

I love sushi, and I love wasabi paste, but I never will be able to look at them the same way again.

Our Little Farm · #22 10/16/10, 03:26 PM

Slugmar · #23 10/16/10, 04:41 PM

Even though this is intresting and I would probaly pay $49.99 to watch it on pay per view, I would recommend purchasing Goat Probios and giving that to them.

chickenista · #24 10/16/10, 06:23 PM

Oh what a shame!
The Saanen weather I just gave to someone else was an easy 'cudder'.

All I had to do was bend down and give him a kiss on the nose. Guaranteed to make him belch a huge mouthfull of cud for me. He would turn his face up for me and belch.
Every single time.

Minelson · #25 10/16/10, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by chickenista

Oh what a shame!
The Saanen weather I just gave to someone else was an easy 'cudder'.

All I had to do was bend down and give him a kiss on the nose. Guaranteed to make him belch a huge mouthfull of cud for me. He would turn his face up for me and belch.
Every single time.

Awwww...that is cute! He would give you a present with the kiss

Blue Oak Ranch · #26 10/16/10, 07:13 PM

LOL! I have avocados....I have raw fish....think the sushi will go over well at a party?

I go into a pen, and scritch goats and do stuff until they come up to me, nose in face, relaxed, and then they *urp* in my face as I skritch under their chin and behind their ears and cheeks. Or on the stanchion, too.

I grab her lower jaw, shove the side of one hand in the front of her mouth so they can't bite down, and then swipe my finger on the side of their cheek.

Those back teeth are razor sharp, and it took me a few slashes to figure out the finer points.

To transfer, I do the same basic thing. I get the goat in need on the stanchion, wait until she's comfortable, then wedge her teeth apart and get the cud as far down her throat as possible.

Cheers!

Katherine

Our Little Farm · #27 10/16/10, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jill.costello

From what I understand, goats are basically ruled by their rumens and their crafty little minds.

The rumen bacteria is a miraculous thing, and it can go haywire if the goat is stressed or ill.

Because goats are naturally contrary and always trying to confound thier people, they don't always get back to normal with probiotic pastes or yogurt concoctions, etc.

So, we molest a different, healthy goat and throttle them until they cough up a fat wad of cud. Then, we molest the ill goat and shove that good cud into her mouth....

Of course, it doesn't always go that smoothly....goats hide razor blades in the backs of their mouths and grabbing for a cud can shred your hand in 2.3 seconds....

Or, there just may be no cud....an animal that spends 29 hours per day lolly-gagging in the sun while urping up pre-chewed food suddenly won't do it the instant you grab them.....

What I have done in an emergency (after my hand was shredded) was to sneak up on the healthy one while it was rythmically cud-chewing.....urp, chew-chew-chew-swallow.....urp, chew-chew-chew-swallow.....Well, I grab them by the underside of the neck immidiately following the "urp" and basically trap the cud upwards, in their throat/mouth-ish area...

Then, I take a dosing syringe of warm water, squirt it in their mouth and immidiately suck it back up. Instant warm green sludge full of healthy bacteria!

Grab the sick goat and make them drink the urp-sludge-water.

This literally turned my sick goatie around in 24 hours the last time I did this. (a few months ago, different goat).

I know my method is not normal, but was founded in visceral NEED......whatever gets the job done, right?

.

I truly and prayerfully hope that I NEVER have a goat that is sick enough for me to do that.

HappyFarmer · #28 10/17/10, 03:12 PM

I've never had to/felt I needed to however am enjoying the responses. I'm with the probios croud.
HF

Our Little Farm · #29 10/17/10, 03:14 PM

So you are not with the sushi crowd?

Charleen · #30 10/17/10, 03:17 PM

I've stolen cud many times, but it's easier to take it from a small doeling. I can straddle them and place my hand under their chin to tip the head up. Hold a finger in that handy "no tooth" spot in the rear of the jaw and swipe inside with my finger. Gotstobequick! SO MUCH better for them than a tube of blue probios. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but the 'real' stuff is more beneficial.

Heritagefarm · #31 10/17/10, 04:55 PM

In this whole topic, no said WHY you would need to steal cud.

Our Little Farm · #32 10/17/10, 04:59 PM

Jill did.

Heritagefarm · #33 10/17/10, 05:07 PM

Ah. I see.

jill.costello · #34 10/17/10, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jill.costello

From what I understand, goats are basically ruled by their rumens and their crafty little minds.

The rumen bacteria is a miraculous thing, and it can go haywire if the goat is stressed or ill.

Because goats are naturally contrary and always trying to confound thier people, they don't always get back to normal with probiotic pastes or yogurt concoctions, etc.

So, we molest a different, healthy goat and throttle them until they cough up a fat wad of cud. Then, we molest the ill goat and shove that good cud into her mouth....

Of course, it doesn't always go that smoothly....goats hide razor blades in the backs of their mouths and grabbing for a cud can shred your hand in 2.3 seconds....

Or, there just may be no cud....an animal that spends 29 hours per day lolly-gagging in the sun while urping up pre-chewed food suddenly won't do it the instant you grab them.....

What I have done in an emergency (after my hand was shredded) was to sneak up on the healthy one while it was rythmically cud-chewing.....urp, chew-chew-chew-swallow.....urp, chew-chew-chew-swallow.....Well, I grab them by the underside of the neck immidiately following the "urp" and basically trap the cud upwards, in their throat/mouth-ish area...

Then, I take a dosing syringe of warm water, squirt it in their mouth and immidiately suck it back up. Instant warm green sludge full of healthy bacteria!

Grab the sick goat and make them drink the urp-sludge-water.

This literally turned my sick goatie around in 24 hours the last time I did this. (a few months ago, different goat).

I know my method is not normal, but was founded in visceral NEED......whatever gets the job done, right?

.

.....

jill.costello · #35 10/17/10, 09:35 PM

Heritagefarm, I would steal a cud to give to my sick goat if my goat had just gotten antibiotics for something, or after a long stressful trailer ride, or after acidiosis (overeating grain, etc).

Anytime they have a significant stressor in their life, it can disrupt their belly bacteria.

Pony · #36 10/17/10, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jill.costello

Heritagefarm, I would steal a cud to give to my sick goat if my goat had just gotten antibiotics for something, or after a long stressful trailer ride, or after acidiosis (overeating grain, etc).

Anytime they have a significant stressor in their life, it can disrupt their belly bacteria.

<snort>

Right now, my darling Muffin with the Udder of Steel (and yak-pink milk) is STILL the cud-chewing champion of the barnyard.

Didn't stop me from sneaking some probiotics into a wad of raisins and feeing it to here, though.

Our Little Farm · #37 10/22/10, 03:48 PM

Heading out tonight and was thinking about Sushi....then remembered the wonderful recipe posted on here and changed my mind.

I will never be able to eat Sushi the same way again.