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09/15/10, 11:31 PM
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just dont bring it in to a state/county/location where it was not previously located, its actually illegal to transport it accrost state lines or something i think, its listed as an Invasive,
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09/15/10, 11:44 PM
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it is illegal to propagate in most of the south. you get caught growing it on purpose and the state will hammer you for it.
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09/16/10, 05:18 AM
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it is illegal to propagate in most of the south. you get caught growing it on purpose and the state will hammer you for it.
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The man I bought it from is in North Carolina. He grows it, advertises it, has even been on tv talking about it. And, he sells it across state lines. It may depend on what you're doing with it.
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09/16/10, 06:05 AM
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I wonder if donkeys and mules would eat it. Anyone have any experience.
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09/16/10, 08:44 AM
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We're in CA I don't think we have Kudzu here. I would like some though for sure. Sounds good for milk production.
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09/16/10, 10:15 AM
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http://www.jjanthony.com/kudzu/
And yes, it can germinate via the seed.
http://www.nps.gov/plants/alien/fact/pumo1.htm
And it is against the law in many places to grow Kudzu. Obviously, this does not affect the people who are making a living off kudzu that was already there- but those who are thinking about it may well think twice- between the law and the determintal (sp) affect on the area and other growth.
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09/16/10, 10:41 AM
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Although kudzu is very aggressive, it can be managed. When we lived in Alabama there was a forrest behind our house and kudzu grew like crazy. It would start to creep into our yard, but as long as we kept the grass cut, it also kept the kudzu at bay. It will grow over everything though if you allow it to run wild. I always thought it would make a great horror story, "The Day the Kudzu Took Over". You can almost watch it grow!
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09/16/10, 10:43 AM
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There's a gal down in Florida that makes her living grazing goats on kudzu. She rents the herd out, furnishes the herding dogs, guardian dogs, and electric fence. She's full time in various areas, even inside towns helping control it, and fattening her goats at the same time.
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09/16/10, 12:51 PM
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I wonder if donkeys and mules would eat it. Anyone have any experience.
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The gentleman I bought it from said he sells it to people for their horses, but doesn't recommend feeding large quantities (kind of like alfalfa)
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09/16/10, 01:02 PM
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kudzo
Hi. I live near Landrum SC and was wondering where you bought your kudzo bales from. Alphafa is $15 a bale here also! As far as nutrition, is it good for the goats and has anyone had any health problems with there goats.
Blessings;
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09/16/10, 05:35 PM
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Hi. I live near Landrum SC and was wondering where you bought your kudzo bales from. Alphafa is $15 a bale here also! As far as nutrition, is it good for the goats and has anyone had any health problems with there goats.
Blessings;
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Sent you a PM with his contact info.
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09/16/10, 08:30 PM
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We already have kudzu growing in our county. It only rarely spreads from seed, and seeing as it makes large pods with seeds like beans, it wouldn't go far. If planted inside a fence like I'd like to, which would be well inside the goat's enclosure, I can't see how it could spread.
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09/16/10, 08:34 PM
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it is illegal to propagate in most of the south. you get caught growing it on purpose and the state will hammer you for it.
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So will your neighbors.
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09/16/10, 09:45 PM
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It only rarely spreads from seed
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ONE errant seed could cause massive problems
It's NOT a good thing to introduce to an area
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09/17/10, 05:49 AM
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Aw, heck- just let 'em do it. Apparently posting pictures of houses and vehicles covered in it isn't enough proof.
It is heavy enough to smother out other vegetation and topple poles and fences- a cattle panel isn't even a challenge.
Just be prepared to see a post in the future about kudzu eating their farms.
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09/17/10, 06:07 AM
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We already have kudzu growing in our county. It only rarely spreads from seed, and seeing as it makes large pods with seeds like beans, it wouldn't go far. If planted inside a fence like I'd like to, which would be well inside the goat's enclosure, I can't see how it could spread.
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You might want to discuss this idea with your county extension agent to see if there are any holes in your plan.
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09/17/10, 06:59 AM
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TN has some "test" goats that are working on a supervised test patch of Kudzu. It was in the paper yesterday. They are trying to see if the goats do a better job of controlling the stuff than the new spray they have out.
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09/17/10, 08:27 AM
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Aw, heck- just let 'em do it. Apparently posting pictures of houses and vehicles covered in it isn't enough proof.
It is heavy enough to smother out other vegetation and topple poles and fences- a cattle panel isn't even a challenge.
Just be prepared to see a post in the future about kudzu eating their farms.
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The cattle panel isn't to stop the kudzu! LOL It's to stop the goats!! The goats can reach their head through the cattle panel, they'll be eating it before it gets to it. I know what Kudzu is capable of, just like I know what horses are capable of, or cattle, or a hand drill, or a sharp knife.
I'm home all day, I seriously doubt the kudzu can jump up, run off into the woods, and scale a tree before I can get out there and destroy a test plot sitting in the middle of a field, that isn't working out. I have 17 goats, kudzu will not live here without protection.
It's all hypothetical anyway, but I would love for someone to give it a whirl.
There are a couple places near that it grows. I've been driving by it year after year and it never goes anywhere, and that's stuff that's in the trees without goats around. At the end of the day, it's still just a fast growing plant.
We had some himalayan blackberries growing here.. had.
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Multiflora rose is a good example up here. It was supposed to be used as a fence, and had been done successfully up north where they plowed the fields almost every year. People brought them in, actually the extension service was backing it. What they didn't know was birds ate the seed then when they flew over a nice pasture and relived themselves. Wa! La! more multiflora rose these things are all over the Ozarks now. Goats love them but I would never plant them on purpose. There a pain in the buttocks !!!!!
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09/17/10, 10:10 AM
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What they didn't know was birds ate the seed then when they flew over a nice pasture and relived themselves.
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That's the sort of thing I'd worry about with Kudzu.
I just don't see it being worth the risk to save a few dollars on feed
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