saanens milk taste

cathleenc · #21 05/14/10, 07:41 AM

Togg milk can taste stronger with perfect nutrition and perfect hygiene! Strong is not neccessarily bad.

luv2farm · #22 05/14/10, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Cheryl aka JM

when I first got my Saanen/Nubian cross last year her milk was off flavored. Someone told me or I read somewhere that Saanen milk was off because it was used for chease....I'd almost swear I read it in one of the dairy goat books I borrowed. But after we copper bolused her it was great. And this year it took about 4 weeks fresh to get all the colostrum taste out but now her milk is FANTASTIC.

What does the "colostrum taste" taste like? I have a 2nd freshener that kidded 2 weeks ago and her milk has a bitter taste to it. SHe had great milk last year, but I got her after she had kidded and was in milk for about 3 months. So, I missed those initial days of milking, so I have nothing to compare to. Maybe I'm just to anxious.....may need to wait a few more days.

shiandpete.1 · #23 05/14/10, 09:40 AM

Oh Christi, if you were closer I would make you make fresh goat cheese. It doesn't taste like a goat, it is so delicate, mildly sweet, with a wonderful creamy texture. Telling you about it is making my mouth water!

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Originally Posted by christie

Now I expect chevre cheese to have that goaty flavor! Though I never had it fresh. But to me thats what goat cheese is suppose to taste like.
The togg milk definetly had a taste too it...

Some blood lines of Toggenburgs were bred for cheese making, and their milk is a bit different, but still shouldn't be goat tasting.

christie · #24 05/14/10, 11:03 AM

mAybe thats where I am getting hung up... I am noticing a difference and calling it goaty tasting. The togg had a flavoring that wasn't that pleasent, though she did kid 3 or 4 weeks prior so that may have been it.
Christie

Cheryl aka JM · #25 05/14/10, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by luv2farm

What does the "colostrum taste" taste like? I have a 2nd freshener that kidded 2 weeks ago and her milk has a bitter taste to it. SHe had great milk last year, but I got her after she had kidded and was in milk for about 3 months. So, I missed those initial days of milking, so I have nothing to compare to. Maybe I'm just to anxious.....may need to wait a few more days.

It seems some people are more sensitive to the colostrum taste than others. To me it does taste kind of bitter~ under the tongue bitter~ it's hard to describe. Most people tell me they can't taste it anymore after a week or so~ but our Saanen/Nubian cross was 4 weeks fresh before I stopped getting that bitter bite from her milk~ and it was another week before the rest of my family declared it edible for fresh milk consumption. My Nubian freshened 3 weeks ago last Monday and I can still taste it in her milk too. It makes great cheese and yogurt at this point~ but to us it still has the "kind of bitter under the tongue" taste we don't like in our fresh milk.

I'm seriously considering giving the Nubian another copper bolus to see if that clears it up faster. I'm thinking maybe she didn't get a good enough dose when she was bolused 2 months ago.

chick41 · #26 05/18/10, 05:23 AM

Our milk this year also tastes funny, unlike last year. One of you mentioned copper boluses, suggesting lack of nutrient to be a possible cause. I feed what I considered to be a balanced,prepared ration, does anyone have experience with this not being good enough??

I hope I'm not going off topic, we are discussing taste. Does anyone know whether a bucks presence will throw the taste off. I'm concerned about it because its the only thing we've changed from last year??

Alice In TX/MO · #27 05/18/10, 07:06 AM

If you aren't offering a high copper mineral or bolusing with copper, then the copper intake is most likely too low. Most of us who have had dairy goats very long have learned the hard way about this.

Long article about copper deficiency:
http://www.saanendoah.com/copper1.html

Chart on downsizing copper boluses for goats:
http://saanendoah.com/cubolusdosechart.html

If your milking sanitation is good enough, the buck should not have an effect, especially at this time of year, as he's not in rut.

GBov · #28 05/18/10, 08:52 AM

My mum swore blind that all goats milk and cheese and yoguart tastes goaty to her so was thrilled to have her here when I had a fresh gallon of goats milk from a little farm a bit north of us. A mixed bag of goats and mmmmmmm the milk is fantastic!

She agreed!

In fact, she loved it so much we got an extra gallon just for her!

Gods, I WANT GOATS!!!!!!

Cliff · #29 05/18/10, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by christie

mAybe thats where I am getting hung up... I am noticing a difference and calling it goaty tasting. The togg had a flavoring that wasn't that pleasent, though she did kid 3 or 4 weeks prior so that may have been it.
Christie

Goaty tasting means you get a goaty aftertaste. It is an individual thing but some breeds do have more individuals with goaty milk.
We're milking a half kiko mutt right now whose milk is tolerable. My sister has our best goat - 3/4 nubian 1/4 kiko - whose milk is very sweet and rich with no aftertaste ever.
If I had the choice I would stick with nubians but that's just a personal preference. I feel you have a better chance of having really good milk with nubians. Still test the milk of any prospect though.
I've only had the milk of one saanan, to me she had a slight goaty aftertaste with the most perfect of milking/cooling habits. But I am very very sensitive to that taste, other family members didn't taste it as much.

eam · #30 05/21/10, 12:59 PM

We have a Togg and think her milk tastes just like cow milk, except richer. Like drinking whole milk with extra creaminess. Nothing goaty at all. But, I will say, if I keep it more than a week or so, and especially after heating it, it has a different (some would probably call it goaty) flavor. But, fresh, there's nothing better.

I'm thinking of adding a Saanen and would want to try the milk first, especially after the comments I've read here!

Elizabeth

wintrrwolf · #31 05/21/10, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by eam

I'm thinking of adding a Saanen and would want to try the milk first, especially after the comments I've read here!

Elizabeth

You should do then what pygmybabies did find a Saanen owner that has one in milk and ask to watch how they milk. Then you know how they do it from start to finish and then you get a taste of the milk. Mind you dont ask to many questions cause I think I forgot to put the udder balm on and something else since I was busy talking

Since handling and such plays a part in taste you know what you do and can get a chance to see what someone else does.

deb_77 · #32 05/23/10, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheryl aka JM

when I first got my Saanen/Nubian cross last year her milk was off flavored. Someone told me or I read somewhere that Saanen milk was off because it was used for chease....I'd almost swear I read it in one of the dairy goat books I borrowed. But after we copper bolused her it was great. And this year it took about 4 weeks fresh to get all the colostrum taste out but now her milk is FANTASTIC.

Maybe its just SOME Saanen goats, or ones that need more minerals...copper? If I were you I'd be sure to ask to taste her milk first, and ask about what she feeds and if the doe has been bolused or not.

Do you have any pictures of your Snubians?

I've been browsing and reading around for a while
and I was stuck on either Saanens or Nubians...., and since I couldn't
make up my mind on either breed, I figured I would start looking for a

SaanenXNubian cross. I know Saanens produce lots of milk, and
that Nubians have a good butterfat percentage that makes their
milk very creamy.

Would you say you have the best of both worlds with your
Snubians?

Is the milk sweet? Creamy? I'm dying to know!!!!

Cheryl aka JM · #33 05/23/10, 02:24 PM

I looked but I don't have any recent pics of her. I do have a couple from when I first got her last year~ don't judge her on these pics though. She was really wormy and underweight in this pic~ she is the white one with brown spots. The brown one~ we don't know what her breeding is but she looks like a nubian only smaller.
saanens milk taste - Goats

Yes~ now that her nutrition is good her milk is very sweet and creamy. Very yummy! I don't know where your located but if your close to north Alabama I'll gladly pour you a glass if you come by!

4piecesof8 · #34 05/23/10, 04:34 PM

http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs351...._6881689_n.jpg

I hope this comes out. It's a picture of our first Snubian doe. Our buck is a Saanen and our doe is Nubian. I cant wait to breed her to a Kiko and see how she milks!!

deb_77 · #35 05/24/10, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheryl aka JM

I looked but I don't have any recent pics of her. I do have a couple from when I first got her last year~ don't judge her on these pics though. She was really wormy and underweight in this pic~ she is the white one with brown spots. The brown one~ we don't know what her breeding is but she looks like a nubian only smaller.

Yes~ now that her nutrition is good her milk is very sweet and creamy. Very yummy! I don't know where your located but if your close to north Alabama I'll gladly pour you a glass if you come by!

Thanks so much...

But unfortunately
I'm in SoCal, so thats a no go...

But I would love to have glass.

Maybe if I go out on the road with my mom (truck driver)
I can stop by. lol.

ozark_jewels · #36 05/24/10, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by eam

I'm thinking of adding a Saanen and would want to try the milk first, especially after the comments I've read here!

Elizabeth

I reccomend this with any goat, not because of breed, but because every goats milk varies a bit just because they are individuals.

copperpennykids · #37 05/26/10, 01:05 PM

Makes sense to try ANY goats' milk prior to purchase.

With that said - Our Saanens milk always tastes good! ALWAYS. For 10 years that is a lot of good tasting milk.

Saanens traditionally have excellent milk. Closest to tasting like cows' milk, only sweeter and with no milky aftertaste/film in your mouth like with cow's milk.

Also - good management, feed, and care when handling milk will affect the quality of the milk. Quality in = Quality out.

deb_77 · #38 05/26/10, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by copperpennykids

Makes sense to try ANY goats' milk prior to purchase.

With that said - Our Saanens milk always tastes good! ALWAYS. For 10 years that is a lot of good tasting milk.

Saanens traditionally have excellent milk. Closest to tasting like cows' milk, only sweeter and with no milky aftertaste/film in your mouth like with cow's milk.

Also - good management, feed, and care when handling milk will affect the quality of the milk. Quality in = Quality out.

Thank you for this review of your saanen's milk!

Very descriptive.

Kye022984 · #39 05/26/10, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by deb_77

Do you have any pictures of your Snubians?

I've been browsing and reading around for a while
and I was stuck on either Saanens or Nubians...., and since I couldn't
make up my mind on either breed, I figured I would start looking for a

SaanenXNubian cross. I know Saanens produce lots of milk, and
that Nubians have a good butterfat percentage that makes their
milk very creamy.

Would you say you have the best of both worlds with your
Snubians?

Is the milk sweet? Creamy? I'm dying to know!!!!

I am in So Cal too and I just purchased my first Saneen/Nubian cross and she will be here with us in June. I am also getting a full bred Saneen whom we are going to breed to a Nubian buck, hopefully. Anyway, the lady I am purchasing her from said as a first freshener she milked a gallon a day of Nubian-type creamy milk. She said it was the best of both worlds and that's exactly how she described it. Hope this helps you out a little. I also think she has one more she is waiting to sell.