Help, is this normal labor?

Bearfootfarm · #21 04/11/10, 11:12 PM

Glad it turned out well for you
Fine looking goats!

Jyllie63 · #22 04/12/10, 05:52 AM

Congratulations! That second picture looks like she is in love with you for helping her

shiandpete.1 · #23 04/12/10, 07:37 AM

Congrats! Those babies are HUGE! The second picture us darling, mama goat is so smiley!

betsy h. · #24 04/12/10, 03:01 PM

Don;t forget, if you went in past the cervix, give momma a big dose of tetracycline- sub-cue and a bolus in the uterus (with no needle on the syringe). she should continue to do fine.

Pony · #25 04/12/10, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by shiandpete.1

Congrats! Those babies are HUGE! The second picture us darling, mama goat is so smiley!

It's no wonder she's smiling, now that those two enormous kids are OUT!

Congratulations, BHF! Ya done good!

dm9960 · #26 04/12/10, 03:12 PM

woohoo! job well done! beautiful babies!

jill.costello · #27 04/12/10, 04:49 PM

Yes, she will need antibiotics. Could someone post the correct doses for both pen-G and the oxytet? I don't want to say the wrong thing....

Goat Servant · #28 04/12/10, 08:38 PM

Nice beautiful big boys!!

Birch Hill Farm · #29 04/13/10, 10:03 AM

Started the mother on LA-200 last night. Now the mother is rejecting one of the babies. If it trys to nurse she just pushes it away, but she lets the first born buck have all the milk it wants. This just started yesterday, she was fine and letting both bucks eat then by evening she was just favoring the one. Having to hold her down to let the baby eat. Is this a common thing to happen and is there any chance she will take it back?
This has been quite the kidding season. Last year we started in goats had three does all three kidded in the night and we found the babies the next day and all where wonderfull mothers. No help given and none needed. This year we have nine does, so far 4 have kidded, 2 had to have their babies pulled 1 of which rejected both babies and now this one rejecting 1. Another mother had a live birth and a miscarriage and initially for several day had nothing to do with her live baby, but has since come around and is a wonderfull mother. At this point we are 1 out of 4 for no human involvement. And the scarry thing is we still have 5 more to kid 4 of which are FF. This is getting frustrating. I guess this is just part of raising goats?

copperpennykids · #30 04/13/10, 10:15 AM

Did you change your management? What are you feeding?

Usually when a goat rejects her kid/s it is because she only has enough milk for the one or two she is willing to keep.

You might want to supplement the 2nd kid with a bottle. Perhaps she is low in milk due to a uterine infection (check temp daily) and will take the kid back when she is feeling better and has more milk. If she doesn't take him back, you will probably want to make him a bottle baby.

This may all be coincidence, but if it was me I would be taking a hard look at management and/or other factors too. Helping pull kids can just be "one of them things" but having does that used to be excellent mothers start rejecting kids ought to be sending up red flags.

Feel free to PM me as well.

Camille
PS Congrats on the kids and a successful assist!

Goat Servant · #31 04/13/10, 10:26 AM

Can you confine the doe in a stall & hold her to let him nurse?
I have one who in the past tries to reject one. I have had to hold her several times a day. By the end of the week she'll see me coming & let that one nurse.
Sorry about your frusterations! Most of the time it all goes well then you can a train wreck one year & want to scream.

Birch Hill Farm · #32 04/13/10, 10:50 AM

Thanks for the replys! Really have not changed much from last year. I want our goats main source of feed to be pasture and browse during the growing season. So there on the open fields untill close to kidding which we then seperate them into kidding pens and stalls untill the babies are a week or so old. We did it the same way last year and had no problems. Pretty much fed them the same as before. Both mothers with rejecting issues had very difficult births maybe a factor? The doe who rejected both was a FF and would not even clean the babies up, in fact she is scared of them and promptly runs away. But she still baas for her mother even though she is over a year old, definetly did not like being sepperated from her into kidding pens. Maybe next year she will do better, if not she will have to go. Only other factor is the father of all these babies was a registered full blood boer who was a decent sized animal verses last year the father was a smaller % buck. I guess its a learning process. For the time being we will attempt to hold down the mother rejecting the one to see if we cant facilitate some bonding. She is also started on antibiotic which should cover some physical issue.
thanks-jon.

Birch Hill Farm · #33 04/13/10, 05:59 PM

This is our only goat not to give any problems this year. Very protective mother!
Help, is this normal labor? - Goats

thaiblue12 · #34 04/13/10, 07:03 PM

Cute kids.
I have not had rejected kids either till this year. I tried Vicks on her nose and his booty but it did not work, maybe it would for you. I had already tossed the afterbirth so I could not use it. I almost had success rubbing some of the leaking birthing fluids and her milk on him but then she decided no he is not mine. I held her and let him nurse for 3 days hoping her idiot self would take him back but I had no luck and then she started getting smart and avoided me, so I ended up with a yet another bottle kid.
Keep them in the stall and hold her but also give him a bottle or two during the day to make sure he eats well. Hopefully after a few days she will take him back.
Good Luck

Minelson · #35 04/13/10, 07:40 PM

What a cute picture!! Total happiness

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