yes normally it might straighten out with sheep.
not with a dwarf goat bred to boer.

Oh my. I do hope it turns out well, but do be ready to have her put down because if there is oozing and such and nothing it happening, I can't imagine it working out in her favor and poor thing should suffer anymore. Hope for the best, but it the worst it what is to be, put her down ASAP.

HANG IN THERE!!!:grouphug:

Any news? I hope that this works out. I had a doe that had a similar "thing" showing and she delivered fine. However, she never conceived again. I didn't know what it was until this thread. It also did not look dry like that and only showed for a few days before delivery.

Looking forward to seeing those kids. Hope all goes well.
Nancy

I am bumping this! I once had a suffolk x ewe that did this and she had quads, there just wasn't enough room and so there was that bubble. The vet checked her and then she lambed like a week later. I would be ready to put her down if you can't spend the money on a c-section and do a quick post-mortem c-section. I lost a pygmy cross last year and she was bred to a Lamancha, and she couldn't deliver so I put her down myself and saved the babies. I hope all turns out well and she is just full of kids. Please let us know!

Wow Kiera - anything?

Sorry I just checked on her a few mins. ago. No babies yet, I am defenitly thinking that she will go tonight, she is nesting and she will actually let me touch her teats without a fight. No more bubble out the back and also no more oozing at all. I wasnt able to get ahold of any lute otherwise I would induce her. Also whatever was sticking out was not dry at all.

We are ready to put her down if we need to. She has gotten a little bit bigger than the pictures and I can tell she is getting closer.

Please let us know how she makes out. Crossing my fingers things work out well.
HF

I hope all works out for your doe. Please keep us updated.
:)

As soon as the heart of the does stops beating the oxygen to the babies will stop. If you deliver after the doe is dead you have to be FAST!

Good luck tonight! May she deliver soon and safely!

Good luck. I hope all goes well.

I have a doe that I thought was going to go around Thanksgiving was showing all kinds of signs, except no bag just alittle pouching in the front of the udder. This her first time kidding, I have been told that sometimes they bag late. Anyways, I am still waiting too.

I took some more pics a few minutes ago. I am uploading them right now. She defenitly looks like she is in labor. More nest spots since I last posted and she is breathing harder. She also just got some clear discharge, so things are moving along.

Me and my mom were talking about when she was bred. We are almost positive that we still had the boer buck at the time she was bred but the more we think about it, the more we arent exactly sure. So hopefully we are wrong about him still being here when she was bred, because if he wasnt there isnt any other buck she could have been bred by except the pgymy.

Here are the pictures I took:
http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/t...6/img_8719.jpg
http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/t...6/img_8718.jpg

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/t...6/img_8717.jpg
http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/t...6/img_8716.jpg

Sorry about the hay and shavings, she is in a heavily padded stall and she has been laying down.

Yep, she's in labor.

Good luck!!!

Good luck and keep us posted!

Any news yet?

I am hoping that all turned out great and she had a litter!

Terri,
You are so correct. I believe I had those babies out in 30 seconds after we put her down. They were weak but perked up after alot of rubbing and some tender care. This is a situation I hope to never ever repeat again!

Any (hopefully) good news to report this morning?

Bump. Curious to see how this turns out.

I have news but it isnt the best. She went into labor when I last posted. At 8 I went out and checked on her. She was still in labor not quite all the way ready. I stayed out with her for 30 mins, she wasnt making any progress so I took a feel. I couldnt feel anything at all. About 30 mins later, I took another feel, this time I felt a bubble. Me having my hand in her actually made her contract more and it seemed to be helping with the delivering.

So the bubble never really came out all the way, it popped and fluid shot all over the place. She wasnt pushing and she wasnt making any progress. I went in again to take a feel and I felt a tail. I personally have never delivered a baby goat, I knew immediately that the kid was breeched and I had to grab the legs and pull.It took quite a bit of pressure for me to get her out. Getting her front half out was the hardest.

That kid was crying and raring to go. About 5 mins later, I look back and I see another bubble starting to come out. It came out quite a bit and then burst. Once again, no baby at all, I went in again this time to find a head. I couldnt find the front legs at first. I finally got ahold of the 2 front legs and started to pull. It wouldnt come. I worked on it for 2 hrs and I still couldnt get the baby out and by that time I knew that the baby had passed. We tried calling several vets but nobody would anwer. We finally had to make a decision and we just left her to do it on her own. It probaly wasnt the best, but by that time we were all extremely tired and frustrated. Not only could I not get this baby out but I felt another one in there. I honestly was expecting to find a dead doe this morning.

I go out there this morning and she is still alive. My mom called the vet and they took her in. I did not get to go but I was told that it took them a hr. to get the second baby out. The third came out fine, they were both stillborn. I was expecting that. All three of the babies were decent size, at this point I am not sure if the boer buck got her or the pygmy. My mom asked the vet about the sizes and she said that it is possible for a pygmy to have larger babies.

So anyways, The first kid was a doe and we named her Faith. We kept her away from Mama last night. I milked 60 mls of colustrum out of our doe and we bottlefed her. She went to work with me and was taken care of by me and our staff. She is truly a miracle baby. Our doe is alive and doing well, her uterus was flushed out after they delivered the other 2 babies and she will be on penicillin for 3 days.

I do have a few questions- Where Do I give the penicillin, the prescription says Im but im not sure what muscle?
Also What can I do to help Momma accept the baby now?


Pics will be up in a few.

Wow! Rough night for you and your Mom. I'm glad everything turned out pretty well and the doe is in good shape. Will you take a picture of Faith?

I have a few pics that I am trying to upload right now.

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Here are the pics. The first few are from right after she was born.
http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/t...by16/baby1.jpg
http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/t...aby16/baby.jpg
http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/t...by16/Baby3.jpg
http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/t...by16/Baby2.jpg

These are from today-
http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/t...by16/baby7.jpg
http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/t...by16/baby4.jpg
http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/t...by16/Baby6.jpg
http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/t...by16/Baby5.jpg

Oh dear soooooooooooooooooo cute!!!!

Wow, rough night for you and the doe. I'm glad she got at least ONE live one to take care of. Had the same type of situation here, and I know how exhausted everyone must be. ((hugs all 'round))

NeHi

She's awesome! Congratulations.

Have you tried to give the baby to mom to see if she'll take it?
From the initial pics I'd guess papa was the boer. What color were the others?
I'm glad to see the little goat lived thru the awful delivery.
Sorry you had to suffer thru it too.

that looks like a boer cross!!! Too cute.

That's a boer baby. Coloration is pygmy but the pattern is pretty much definite boer. Sounds like the boer buck was around. :)

Yes, pygmies CAN kid fine from being bred to full size. However, it's unlikely. Especially boer crossed. Glad she had one survivor! :)

penicillin is given sc and just over her ribcage is fine. make sure to pull the plunger back that you didn't hit a blood vessel or you are risking her going into shock.
you need to give at least five better ten days.
congratulation and lucky your doe carried trippleds or the outcome would have been grim.

soooo cute
 

I am so happy you got your little doeling.try and see if momma will nurse her. I had a lil buck that I had to bring in for quite some time. I kept the momma and baby bond by visits during the day. I put mom on the stand and had baby nurse. eventually she accepted him back...

That was probably the best outcome possible, and so congrats on the ONE very cute little doeling. I hope the mother will accept her. You might have to hold her to let her let the doeling nurse. I've had that happen, but congrats on a fairly good outcome.

Im not too sure that she is a boer cross

She looks very much like her mom did when we got her. She was about this same color just with a stripe down her back. The other 2 were 2 different colors, one was black with stripes on it like the pygmy buck and the other was brown like the doe. I wonder if goats are bred by multiple bucks if the kids could have different sires? I know it is like that with dogs and cats.

Hmmm, It says IM on the bottle and on the prescription. I know how to give shots and everything I do that on a daily basis. I probaly will keep her on the pen a little bit longer because of everything that happened.

Right now we are having a hard time with the doe accepting her back, The doe is still very sore and doesnt really want the baby back by her teats.

Yea it was. It was killing me when I couldnt get that baby out last night. I knew I only had a certain amount of time. I got the doeling out within 10 mins after the sack broke. I just knew when I passed that mark with the second one, it wouldnt make it. I could feel another one in there and I assumed that one probaly wouldnt make it.

I was a little worried at first about the colustrum issue as the doeling didnt get a chance to nurse after she was born. I did milk the doe and I got about 60cc's of colostrum out. I fed it to her but Im not sure it was enough. What should we be feeding her when she isnt on mom?

It will be best if you can keep milking her.
They need to be back together ASAP

I always give IM shots in the meatiest part of the rear leg

I would do my very best to milk to mom if she will not allow the doeling to nurse. As a last resort, you can offer whole cow's milk, but I would try to milk to mom or make her allow the baby to nurse.

i have had does with difficult deliverys before and the pain seems to make them not want anything to do with the kid, its possible though to get them over this, pen them in a stall togather and watch, hold the doe every so often so the baby can nurse, a few days of this should bond them as much as they can be bonded,

yes its possible that if two bucks bred the doe while in heat that both bucks can be the father, the fact that they are faternal triplets means they are from three differint eggs, each egg fertilized by a differint sperm,

white body colord head is a boer trade mark, if she grows up to have a roman nose and flopy or air plain ears you will know for sure,

the reason to give penicillin sc to goats is because of their fast metabolism. this way it will stay longer in the system.
there is also much less risk hitting a blood vessel and sending her into shock.
penicillin is given at least seven days to prevent building up resistant of certain bacteria strains. if you stop too early ad she get sick, penicillin will not work for her ever.
instruction on the bottle is for cattle?