Is this a hermaphrodite? pic

As to the OP that is one funny looking goat. If your neighbors bought it to eat brush then I think they are being a bit silly about it. I would probably see if you can find a breeder that might want it as a tester for breeding.

they are a bit silly but it their goat. but they bought it in a group and I think was going to sell it anyway. I told them to call the extension office to see if Clemson might want it.

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SherriM,
Thanks for the compliment.
Yes, it's easy to tell if a goat is natural polled when a person knows what to look for. I'm sure a lot of breeders check their kids before polling. I ended up with a natural polled doe and I didn't know a thing about it at the time. I bred her to my buck and got triplets. My buck is horned. All three of the kids were natural polled. I kept waiting for their horns to grow in. I'm in South Texas and it can get really hot here. I don't poll mine. I became interested in the natural polled gene, but I want to breed it out of my own. If I were polling, I might hang onto it.
Probably a lot of the hermaphrodites are a result of that gene, but most of the natural polled hermaphrodites are said to look just like bucks. They mess up the ratio of male to female when you count the herd because a certain percentage of the does will be counted as bucks.
The hermaphrodites that look like does may be more mildly affected. It's all in degrees.
It's nice the doe may have a place and a job, even though she probably can't conceive. It seems she got lucky!

some that are called hermaphrodites are actually 'chimeras'- this is different than a hermie in that both sets of genitalia are present, but not necessarily able to be seen.

In some of the first Guernsey litters from a friend of mine, she had several that were 'ambiguous' as to their sex- the 'vulva' was down between their legs and looked like a rosebud. The testes were there, but up inside where the udder would be, like a pair of grapes when palpated. I had one in a litter last year, along with my one eyed doe kid who was born with no tail.

Look up 'chimera' on wikipedia- the odd chromesome issues these individuals have, yes, even people, are linked to several different genetic abnormalities- some are born with different DNA in their organs than in their bloodstream and even those who are born feeling like that should be a different sex than they are. It can go up XXXXXY, and these individuals are profoundly affected- it is thought there are only a couple of dozen of these humans worldwide.

As an example- a tortoise shell cat is a chimera.

My hermaphrodite had no polled anywhere in its background, came from parents who had produced viable offspring in the past. She was just a fluke.
To the OP, can you get a picture of this goats udder area?? If it is extremely flat with very small teats, another hermie indicator.

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I looked at it's udder. it was very flat. I looked this goat over as well as I could. If they still have it I'll try and go over to take a pic.

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I think you must mean male tortoise shell cats - female tortoise shell cats are as common as mud.

I've only had one naturally polled kid out of a horned doe - I knew right away that she was polled. It's not hard to tell.

You might want to ease off on the "blanket" statements. Just sayin'.

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No, female tortoise shells are chimeras. Two different sets of DNA does not necessarily mean sterility.

There has been stuff in the media where women have had their kids taken because they have different DNA than the baby they gave birth to- Children's services workers actually attending the births so that they can take DNA samples immediately as the worker watches to prove that that woman gave birth to that child.

I have a doe who looks just like that and she had two lovely doeling this spring. I have another with an elongated pionty end to her vulva, also had kids many times and they both milk great.

I'll be sure to pass that info on to them.

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I posted pics of my hermaphrodite "doeling" a couple years ago and pics of normal doelings for comparison. Here are the links to the threads with pics.

Updated pics of Hermaphrodite Compared to Normal Doelings

Pics of a Hermaphrodite

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I had a freemartin doeling 4 or 5 years ago, and I do believe I have another one this year.

They are pretty simple to tell -- put a speculum and light in there and see what's what. In the first kid, she only had a tract about 3" long. Just long enough for her to pee like a girl. There was then just a blank wall....no cervix. When we butchered her, she had no sex organs at all. No uterus, ovaries, testicles....nothing.

Tracy

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That's bizarre!

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