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That baby is darling!! What a cutie!
Lamanchas are my favorite.My husband and oldest daughter though didn't want Lamanchas at first, they also thought they were ugly. My husband grew up with Nubians and the no-ears were really off putting to him. I am happy to say they have both been turned and now love the Lamacha's as much as I do  .
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07/29/09, 02:50 PM
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I traded one of my purebred Boer bucklings for a purebred Lamancha FF. Shes out of South Fork stock. Shes friendly, sweet, will follow you like a puppy. Easy peasy to milk. Looks up at you with those sweet eyes and who cares about ears?  We both had to get over the 'no ear' thing, but now we just see the goat behind the ears, lol. Still love our basset-eared boer babies tho
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07/29/09, 03:16 PM
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I can't quite get past the no-ears thing either, though I am sure they have other qualities that more than make up for it. But I too am wondering--is this a natural mutation that occurred in a wild population, or was it a human-selected trait? If so, are there any advantages to not having ears? To me, it seems it would be most advantageous in a very cold climate, but La Manchas do not seem to have originated from there.
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07/29/09, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Wolf Flower
I can't quite get past the no-ears thing either, though I am sure they have other qualities that more than make up for it. But I too am wondering--is this a natural mutation that occurred in a wild population, or was it a human-selected trait? If so, are there any advantages to not having ears? To me, it seems it would be most advantageous in a very cold climate, but La Manchas do not seem to have originated from there.
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They were bred in the NW United States in the 1930's (I think location & time are right - not sure of the details). This breed doesn't occur in the wild - I am sure of that. I don't know if the ears were a trait they were bred for or not....
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07/29/09, 04:04 PM
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From what iv read/herd is that it is a man selected traits, they were bred for ears and personality
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07/29/09, 04:11 PM
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Lamacha is a American Bred goat. Besides you don't milk the ear's! 
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07/29/09, 04:32 PM
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From what iv read/herd is that it is a man selected traits, they were bred for ears and personality
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 awhh Poo! Hogwash!
Ms. Eula Fay Frey would turn over in her grave to read this crap.
From what I've read they were bred for their sweet milk. The ears were an identifying mark of great milk in abundance! 
http://lamanchas.com/lm-history.htm
http://www.dairygoatjournal.com/issu...ale_Woods.html
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07/29/09, 04:54 PM
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Okay, so what I gather is that the earlessness was a spontaneous mutation that occurred in domestic goats somewhere along the line? I mean, no one ever said "Let's create an earless goat" and set about to make it happen.
I assume that the gene for earlessness is not genetically linked to anything, and I mean genetically linked in the way that the polled gene is genetically linked to hermaphroditism.
Anyway, since some of the earless goats happened to be good milkers with nice personalities, people started breeding earless goats on purpose. Pretty soon the earlessness became a hallmark, and a new breed was established. Am I close?
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07/29/09, 05:10 PM
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They aren't my favorite as far as looks go, but they do make up for it with their personality. They are gentle and quiet for the most part (with people, maybe not other goats!) They just tend to be "easy" seems to me. And my lamancha doe does have great tasting milk.
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FWIW, I think they are darned cute! LaManchas and Nubians, while at opposite ends of the ear spectrum, are (to me) the best looking goats out there. If you're gonna have a goat, might as well get one that appeals to you... so if you think they are ugly, don't get one!
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07/29/09, 05:18 PM
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How is this not CUTE?
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I LOVE facial stripes on lamanchas. Stinkin adorable!!
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07/29/09, 05:36 PM
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I assume that the gene for earlessness is not genetically linked to anything, and I mean genetically linked in the way that the polled gene is genetically linked to hermaphroditism.
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MAY be.
I know what you mean, though.
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08/02/09, 10:20 AM
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Oh My goodness Bricheze... That baby is sooooo cute.
ADORABLE...
What kind of real goatherder couldn't just fall head over heels for that little smiling-face, beautiful-eyes precious bably?
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I raise Nigerian Dwarf goats, and I have a couple of Nubian does. I got my first La Mancha doe kid this spring (thanks, Shereen!), and she is by far the sweetest little goat I've ever known. Yes, she reminds me of ET.
Someone stopped here last week and it was obvious he'd never seen a La Mancha; Sweet Pea came running to greet him and he exclaimed "Wow! Where do you get something like that?". She certainly is exotic looking!
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"Ugly".......yep, that is exactly what I thought until I got my first Lamancha. Lamanchas are BEAUTIFUL!!!  If I was going to ever cut back to one breed, it would be Lamanchas.
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