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Old 06/12/09, 12:15 PM
 
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I give probiotics to keep the rumen functioning in case an antibiotic interfers with the bacteria. Probiotics won't interfere with the antibiotics but the opposite is true.
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Old 06/12/09, 12:22 PM
 
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He's propped up and eating. He's pretty fiesty. I called in sick to work so I can be here. I've learned so much this last couple of days. I really appreciate everyone here!
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Old 06/12/09, 04:26 PM
 
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Fantastic!!!!! So darn happy to hear he is just a bit better
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He looks "brighter" and I see him attempting to move on his own, so that is giving me hope. He's trying to position his front legs, moving them around a bit. I hate poking him with the needles so often. He cries like it hurts bad.
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He looks "brighter" and I see him attempting to move on his own, so that is giving me hope. He's trying to position his front legs, moving them around a bit. I hate poking him with the needles so often. He cries like it hurts bad.
Sue Reith told me that most shots do NOT have to be IM so you can spare him some pain and do them SQ.

I hope he pulls through soon.
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Old 06/12/09, 08:32 PM
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Fingers and toes crossed that he continues to get better!
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He doesn't look good. I've made him as comfortable as possible.
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He made it through the night but he seems worse. Not eating like he was yesterday.
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Old 06/13/09, 08:46 AM
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Sorry Cathy. Poor baby I hope he doesn't suffer too much.
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Old 06/13/09, 08:49 AM
 
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When ever my guys are off i give yogurt with nutri drench..it will give him some energy and help keep his rumen from shutting down .Can you still hear gut sounds from him? Did he have a temp? You could call Cornell and get their opinion. I have heard that the goat vet there will help you over the phone.
Good luck with him.......I'm worring my self here too over a premie 2 pound kid with breathing trouble so i feel your pain .

was thinking you might want to treat for entero too....can't hurt

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Old 06/13/09, 09:21 AM
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If his gut shut down you can try stealing cud from another goat and giving it to him too. I'm sorry he is not getting better Hugs to you...
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Old 06/13/09, 11:24 AM
 
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I just gave him a big cupful of goat electrolytes through a big syringe. He didn't fight me, seemed ok with the idea. Just got back from the TSC in Cortland, the one in Vestal was out of the CD&T anti-toxin when I was there yesterday. Gave him a big injection of that. I sure hope I see some improvement.......
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Old 06/13/09, 11:51 AM
 
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I just propped him up, gave him more electrolytes with some baking powder mixed in. He made a faint burping sound (I think) and started eating hay.
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I think that is a good sign.

I've got my fingers crossed.
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Old 06/13/09, 12:42 PM
 
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You really need to treat for the whole umbrella of possibilities when you see these symptoms and right away. What's missing is steroids. Not to say your guy would bounce back, but I've seen enough of friends' cases with polio, deerworm etc, that it's something like Dexy that can be of great help.
If it's say, tetanus, not a good chance of recovery, according to my vet, even with tons of anti-toxin.
So sorry you're going through this.
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Old 06/13/09, 02:29 PM
 
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Does anyone know how long it would take to see signs of improvement if it is enterotoxemia? Do I give just one dose? Thanks.

Moonspinner, I certainly would treat for everything if this ever happens again! I have every med I will ever possibly need and I've spent hour upon hour reading about all the possible things that this could be. It's one thing to worm, trim hooves, and vaccinate on a schedule. I've never had an illness like this, and honestly, I did not know what to treat for first. Thanks to everyone for all your help.
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So glad to hear he is doing a bit better!!!
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Old 06/14/09, 12:03 AM
 
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Gosh, I wish I could say he's doing better. I am pleased that when I just checked (I just got home from work) he is alive.

He is so ill. I keep reminding myself that I've have some amazing success with other animals when I was ready to dig the grave for them. Maybe, just maybe?, he'll pull through, but it doesn't look good.
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Old 06/14/09, 06:13 AM
 
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I am so sorry you're going through this. It sounds a lot like something I went through with an alpaca. It was horrible.
I know the kid is only a few months old but have you looked into meningeal worm?
He maybe too young- i don't know.

Get onto Dairygoatinfo.com and ask those guys. Someone there will know.

If you can- try to get a hold of Vicki.
I hope he pulls through for you.
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Old 06/14/09, 09:36 AM
 
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He's still with us but doesn't seem to be improving. He's eating hay, and I'm giving him electrolytes with baking soda, by syringe. Temp is within normal range, poop looked fine this morning. I am hearing slight rumbles in his belly. His legs are all flexible, not stiff. Eyes are clear, no sign of paralysis in the face.
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