Big belly in goat

Thanks for the further info. I was at the vet's today getting meds for my sick bottle calf. I was talking about cydectin with the gal there and she said that she has a printout from Langston University that says there is a 56 day withdrawal time on milk in dairy goats. I'm trying to find that online but haven't yet. Does anyone know about this?

yes 56 days is correct.
did you ask if they had identified the parasite?

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No, this was a different vet's office. I'm tied up with this sick bottle calf right now and trying to make sure I get him treated and don't end up losing him. The vet at the other office(the one that did the fecal) told me that there wasn't a milk with holding time for cydectin. I found on the Langston site where it says that but in the reference materials cited for that the most current listed was 2002. So, I emailed one of the vets there. Hopefully they will email me back.
I know the other vet said it was a "screening" test that they do and that no one around does actual counts where they centerfuge the sample down? He said it was worms not cocci. I wish I had a microscope maybe I could get this stuff figured out. I have 3 local vets I go to and get told something different from each one!

The more I read about liver flukes the more I wonder if that's what she has except her poop looks normal. I will ask the gal at the vet I went to today if she can tell the difference bwt the liver fluke and barber pole worm eggs.

how is the area the goat have access to?
liverflukes need snails as intermedeate host, need swampy damp area or ponds. liferfluke eggs are not to be seen in normal fecal flotation but need a sediment diagnostic.
liver fluke eggs are opening up as son as they fall in water and sink to the ground. if in some very rare occasion some are lucky to see a liver fluke egg on the slide, they are almost double in size compared to barber ploe egg. they are not as elongated either.
i would definitely ask your vet if there are problems with this parasite in your area.

how are her eye membrane look like? very pale with hint of yellow??????

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poop can look normal with liver fluke infestation.
acute symptoms are anemia and weight loss.
if the belly gets distorted like you describe, is is from liver failure, fluid will flow in the abdominal cavity.

just in case you really are dealing with liver flukes, and you are loosing this doe,
if you do field necropsy, you can see very clearly the destroyed liver and adult flukes.
you then will understand that it will take a lot of TLC to take care of such an animal as liver cells do not regenerate themselves like other organ cells.

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No, no yellow eye membrane. They have access to 200 brushy acres and they travel all over. Lots of bermuda grass, weeds, browse. That's why I can't figure this out, goats were never here before us, they don't eat off the ground in the barn. It's just the one goat that looks bad but she's the only one in milk too.
Thanks for the info about the fecal flotation. Could I send a sample off somewhere through the mail? But since he said she was "heavily infested" and it wasn't cocci then it was the barber pole or something similar that cydectin "should" kill?

Her belly is not distended like it was-I do think she got into something she shouldn't have.

if she got into something she should not have, this doesn't account her poor body score.

moxidectin does not get some of the strongyles.
have you checked her for lice or mites?

sometimes we can look and never find why one particular animal is doing not as good as the herd mates.

do you have enough copper in the mineral mix for your animals?

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Sorry for not getting back sooner. I have been busy with my bottle calf who unfortunately didn't survive and died last night from pnuemonia.
On my goat..
If the vet tells me that cydectin is the ONLY thing that works around here what would get those resistant strongyles?
I looked for lice and had my daughter look since my eyes are getting old! I can see very fine dandruff which my other goats don't have....could that be it?
For minerals-she gets a Cattle mineral by ADM-I've read on the boards that it can be used for dairy goats. I threw away the bag but I know it was comprable to the bluebonnet techmaster that I use when I can find it and it's high in copper. She also gets Diamond V yeast daily.

I really appreciate the help! I'll get a picture of her up here today.

Poor little goat, I wish I knew what to tell you next. I don't know if lice would make her belly distended & her eye lids gray but if she has lice I would treat her for them. There is some stuff called Cylence that works great for lice also at TSC I get a cattle pour on that's called"Lice no more" that works good for the black flies, etc. too.

I wish I new what to tell you to worm her with but I really don't know what would work in that area other than what your using. Seems weird that it's only 1 of your goats acting this way though.