Emergency, Sick baby!!!!

if you have a baby bottle that would work, That is what my nd babies drink out of.

I am not offended, I am usually more prepared, never really had a problem, this year I didnt worry about it and I have a problem, it us my resposability, now all i can do is what you all tell me and hope for the best....and not make this mistake again,,,,did hoegger send a cataloge out yet???I didnt get it if they did, thats where Ive ordered nessesities from in the past,,,,need to contact them....did try one of those black coke bottle nipples,,,was too hard, she wasnt getting anything and gave up,,,any ways to soften it???tryed granddaughters baby bottle and she never seemed to get a grip on it,,,I realize the huge mistake,,,I appreciate the non judgmental advice,,,,will deffinatley go to vets office first thing in the morning and buy colostrum, if she makes it till then,,,stupid question,,,,is colostrum replacer animal specific???if so if vet dont have goat stuff on hand can I use cow stuff?? pig stuff?? horse stuff???

I dont know if it will help. You could get the colostrum from the feed stores. It does have cow colostrum.It comes in with the tube. I dont know if ur store is still open. I do know that someone did use the cows colostrum and it works for them to their baby goats. You can get it now and use it right now then tomorrow morning go to the vet's office. Becuz the time frame is running slim.. U know.

How is everything ?

Goat colustrum is best then move on to cow if you cannot get it.

Patty

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Raising Saanen Dairy Goats , Icelandic Sheep , German Shepherds ,Registered Jersey cows , LGD

FWIW, Pat Coleby (in Natural Goat Care) suggests a colustrum replacer which consists of whole milk, a tablespoon of codliver oil and seaweed extract. I don't have seaweed extract, but I did give my little Boer girl the codliver oil in her first few bottles. She did get some colostrum (boy, it's hard to milk Boers - worse than Nigies!), but not a lot, and she's doing ok.

For a Nigie, I'd give maybe a tsp of codliver oil, if you can't get the colostrum today. As for the hard nipple - I've always had to cut the opening bigger or they can't seem to get any milk out. This year, I saw Pritchard nipples at my feed store and they do work much better.

Good luck with the little one!

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"Crivens!"

Half Caper Farm - breeding Saanens, Boers and Nigerian Dwarfs

I don't know if it is any help, but years ago I was told that "local" colustrum (even from a different animals) was preferable to "imported" like commercial ones. So if there is a herd of cows somewhere nearby I would go and ask if they have a cow just calved.

I don't know if it will work if the kid is already sick, but have you tried getting it to drink from a bucket/bowl?

Just dip your fingers in the milk, then put your fingers in the kid's mouth. It should suck on your finger. Then just lower your hand alongn with the kid's mouth into the bucket and after a few goes the kid should start to suck up the milk. Once it is drinking the milk, take your finger out of it's mouth.

Never done it with a tiny one, but one of my kids had to learn to bucket drink last year. And with calves they start them on buckets very young.

Good luck

hoggie

Pooks ,

Do not take this the wrong way but that alone will not do. The oil is to get them pooping . The importance of colustrum is the baby is born with no immune system . Colustrum transfers all of Moms antibodys to baby to protect it .

While using a replacer is better than nothing , nothing beat Moms or 2nd best another goat from your farm. The goats on your farm have anibodies that help protect baby from harmfull things on YOUR farm.

Patty

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I realize that. But in the absence of colostrum, I thought it might be a help. Hence the "FWIW". I totally agree that mom's colostrum is the absolute best for the baby - if you can get it.

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"Crivens!"

Half Caper Farm - breeding Saanens, Boers and Nigerian Dwarfs

I had kid that never got colostrum and she is four years old, giving me big beautiful kids herself so don't think it is a death sentence that she didn't get enough. I did put a little probiotics in the whole cows milk each time though.

I'm wondering if the big white pill had something to do with her going downhill. Scouring from replacer is sometimes normal, that is why we say whole cows milk. Mustard colored poo is normal as a paste but not watery. I put a drop of corn syrup in cows milk to keep my kids normal (thanks Vicki)

I have used a rubber glove in the past too. I think if you start with the hard black nipple, they get used to it and don't think any different. Sometimes putting a little honey on your finger, letting them suck it off, then putting the honey on the hard nipple works. Also, sometimes the hole isn't big enough on the black nipple. (learned that one the hard way)

Hope she is better today.

How is the kid today?


Justin

with the pop bottle nipples you need to elarge the openings. I sit and stretch mine in the evening while I am watching TV to break them in.

With the pop bottle nipples we have, we had to cut an X in the tip of the nipple and then use our hands to stretch it and work it until its a bit softer. Once you get in their mouth (may have to hold baby on your lap and put the nipple in the baby's mouth) if you squeeze the bottle a bit it will help the milk come out. One the get the idea that there is milk in the nipple they will start to suck it.

I once had a doe who looked to have little milk upon delivery. By the next day it came in.
I sure hope your kid makes it.

She is GREAT!!!THANKS!!! READ MY OTHER POST ON THIS FORUM!!

myrandaandkids, how is your little doeling doing today?