Cocci prevention – how do you do it?

hoofinitnorth · #41 01/28/09, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by LaManchaPaul

There sure isn't a consensus locally on this nasty issue. It goes from "not an issue" to "I'll deal with it as it occurs."

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Originally Posted by LaManchaPaul

I haven't decided on cocci prev yet as I have a few weeks to go, but I WILL NOT treat it as it occurs.

You may not have the luxury of waiting until it occurs to treat but some of us do. Where cocci is not an issue, it is unnecessary, expensive, and possibly harmful to the animals to treat or prevent. It's like over-vaccinating. Some of us want to grow naturally strong, healthy kids that don't have to rely on medications to live. If we treated and tried prevention for every possible illness out there, we'd have weak kids and low-quality stock.

LaManchaPaul · #42 01/28/09, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by hoofinitnorth

You may not have the luxury of waiting until it occurs to treat but some of us do. Where cocci is not an issue, it is unnecessary, expensive, and possibly harmful to the animals to treat or prevent. It's like over-vaccinating. Some of us want to grow naturally strong, healthy kids that don't have to rely on medications to live. If we treated and tried prevention for every possible illness out there, we'd have weak kids and low-quality stock.

I've had deaths and stunted growths for cocci. A boer X took two yrs to mature after she had a near death experience from it. Dr. Lynn showed me the slide that Sunday afternoon. While all those goats now work at a neighbor's cleaning brush, I don't want it again.

I plan to fence in a part of my yard for the babies so that they don't run with the adults and will be on "new" soil. I also plan to use Co-Rid as of right now. I have found another reference and I'll post it when I get the words down.

It is great that some can grow naturally, however I'm certain that in warm, moist south GA, they will naturally die.

Paul

susanne · #43 01/28/09, 03:59 PM

although up north, i can not go without prevention.

my vet told me from some farm visits where it seems to be impossible to raise kids as every year she sees kids and adults die from coccidiosis.

#44 01/29/09, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by susanne

don't know if i'm in the frozen north?
still do 1cc per 10lb for five days, every 20 days. done it since i started with goats and it works for me. oh, and i fecal.

di-methox was not available last year and i used bactrim instead. worked fine too

hoeggers just plain has the wrong directions. same with their herbal claims to be tested, if you look closer, done from a little girl and not very scientific correct.

Well, if your ground is a fairly uniform shade of white, as it is here, then yes... frozen and north would be appropriate descriptors.

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For 5 days, they recieve this med. in their bottles once a day at this amount: 1cc/10 lbs the first day then 0.5cc/10 lbs the next four days. Counting from that last day of those five, you count 21 days and repeat the 5 day treatment again. Over and over until 6-7 months old. It breaks the lifecycle of the cocci, which is found everywhere in your soil.

If the kid already HAS coccidiosis , then don't "step down" the dose. Stay at 1cc/10lbs for the whole 5 days, without going to 0.5cc/lbs during the last 4 days.

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(HT archives; 5/07; Vicki) Dimethox 40% is dosed by weight, 1cc per 10 pounds day one, 1cc per 5 pounds for day 2, 3, 4 and 5 and repeat in 21 days for 5 days until weaned or eating (not nibbling) on pellets with cocci meds in it. This is for prevention. If you have cocci, do not dose down days 2, 3, 4 and 5. There is huge weight difference between a healthy boer kid and a small ND! One would get too much one would not get near enough.

Has anyone contacted Hoegger to tell them that their dosages are incorrect? I found the same "wrong" dosage over and over on numerous sites. Had I not been searching for different information, I would have just assumed that was the right dosage. Well, technically, I did.