Which wormer should I use on pregnant does?

dosthouhavemilk · #21 01/01/09, 12:50 PM

I've been using Cydectin because I brought in some nasty new worms when I brought ina small herd a few years back. It brought everything under control here.
I've used Cydectin on does in most stages of pregnancy, inclduing a doe who was wormed and then put with the buck. She delivered two very large, healthy buck kids five months later.
The breeding herd numbers over 75 at this point. We've never had any problems with using Cydectin Pour-On dosed orally in the gaots at 1cc/22 pounds.
On one of the Boer lists they are worming with Cydectin at 1cc/10 pounds in Texas. Their goats don't drop over dead, so it seems to have a bit of a safety net as far as overdosing.
I don't fecal, so do with it what you will. I'm just pointing out that it does not kill/deform fetuses, or goats...at least in my experience over the the last couple of years on a couple of hundred head of goats.

hoofinitnorth · #22 01/01/09, 05:53 PM

I've said it before but it bears repeating: IMO, it is unsafe to use a topical chemical orally. IMO, there is no reason to use a topical de-wormer orally, especially in the case of a chemical like moxidectin (often sold as Cydectin), which does come in an oral formula. It is not worth the cost savings, to me.

I do know one gal locally who has recently had trouble with Cydectin. She reported that she used it as directed for many years, as a pour-on. One of her bucks, who had been treated with this chemical using this method in the past with no apparent problems, was horribly burned by the product. This was within the last year and she did not report any other damage to the rest of her herd. Just an anecdote but it does make you wonder why it suddenly bothered this buck and what if that had been an internal issue rather than an external one.

susanne · #23 01/01/09, 08:16 PM

this topical is designed with the cow hide in mind and not for the thin sensitive skin of the goats. i don't want to use it as a topical but still wondering what effect it really has long term if given orally.
i think i saw one research where they said cydectin pour on it is stored in the body fat.

jordan · #24 01/01/09, 11:19 PM

I know people have used the pour-on orally with success, but I have never understood WHY it would even occur to them to pour a flamable solvent down their goats throat though.
I would not use the pour-on as a pour-on for goats simply because their skin is different from a cow's hide. Cydectin injectable works just fine when given sub-Q.
I would be very curious to know if those that have been using the pour-on orally for a few years have had necropsies done and specificly looked for any possible effects of it internally?
Lois

goatsareus · #25 01/03/09, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by jordan

I would be very curious to know if those that have been using the pour-on orally for a few years have had necropsies done and specificly looked for any possible effects of it internally?

Lois

I have asked this question before on this forum, and the answer I received was.....no.

jordan · #26 01/03/09, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by goatsareus

I have asked this question before on this forum, and the answer I received was.....no.

That's kind of what I figured...
Lois