IS she every going to kid?

reicheru · #21 12/30/08, 05:32 PM

I'd at the very least get the colustrum and freeze it... just in case.

So sorry to hear about this. very sad.

mary,tx · #22 12/30/08, 05:47 PM

Sorry to hear about your goat. I had to pull a dead calf this year, and I know it is terribly disappointing.

If she is a dairy goat, there is no reason why you can't still milk her. You would toss the milk for the first week (or freeze it for future babies), as it will be colostrum, gradually becoming regular milk.

Minelson · #23 12/30/08, 05:48 PM

so sorry for your loss. What a dreadful experience for you and your family...I'm so sorry.

LittleRedHen · #24 12/30/08, 06:05 PM

I agree! try milking

sorry for your loss

hoofinitnorth · #25 12/30/08, 06:08 PM

Oh I'm sorry! The good that comes from this is that you know you were attentive to her needs and took all the steps you could to help the doe after you realized what happened to the baby.

Did the vet say why or how this happened? I've only heard of cords breaking occasionally where the kid drowns if it doesn't get out soon enough after, but never heard of a kid that bled to death before delivery because of where the cord broke.

ShyAnne · #26 12/30/08, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by reicheru

I'd at the very least get the colustrum and freeze it... just in case.

So sorry to hear about this. very sad.

I am also very sorry, but this is a very good idea.

4H mama · #27 12/31/08, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by hoofinitnorth

Did the vet say why or how this happened? I've only heard of cords breaking occasionally where the kid drowns if it doesn't get out soon enough after, but never heard of a kid that bled to death before delivery because of where the cord broke.

Well, actually the vet may not have said that it bled to death.... I think I just assumed that because their was so much blood in the sac..... some clear fluid too, but then a section of the sac came out that was full of lots of blood.

He probably actually did die from drowning, that makes sense.

4H mama · #28 12/31/08, 09:40 AM

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Why not milk her? I'm assuming by what you posted that it is a meat goat? You can still get a good amount of house milk from her...at least a little good could come out of a sad situation.

I don't think I will milk her. We noticed a lump on her bag at the vet's office. The vet didn't test it, but I am nervous it could be CL. I think I will just let her dry up. I don't want to spread it to any part of my herd.

We made the mistake of buying this goat from some friends that had picked a bunch up at auction. Never again. You just don't know what you are getting when you buy them that way, rather than from a breeder.

4H mama · #29 12/31/08, 09:45 AM

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Why not milk her? I'm assuming by what you posted that it is a meat goat? You can still get a good amount of house milk from her...

No. I grew up on a dairy farm. I have no desire to milk an animal. We have friends that milk their goats and have lots of colostrum frozen that we can get when we need it. I have another friend that milks both goats and cows and I can get all the fresh milk I want from them.

So, no. I like the livestock aspect of raising goats, some are even like pets. But, I don't enjoy the milking part -- I'm just not committed enough, I guess.

crazygoatgal · #30 12/31/08, 09:50 AM

What a horrible first experience, but you did everything right and to the best of your ability. You should really consider getting your doe tested for CL just for the peace of mind it will give you.

4H mama · #31 12/31/08, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by crazygoatgal

What a horrible first experience, but you did everything right and to the best of your ability. You should really consider getting your doe tested for CL just for the peace of mind it will give you.

Yes. I thought that too. My husband was with the vet when they spotted the knot. The vet just said, "It's looks like it's probably CL". So, I am assuming it probably is. Thankfully, she has been secluded from most of the herd for the last month anyway and only around them for about a week before that.

I am planning on moving her out of the barn as soon as she heals a little more and then spraying the barn down with a strong bleach solution and leaving it on there to kill the germs.

What do you recommend doing with her -- selling her? Do I have to put her down? What should I do?

crazygoatgal · #32 12/31/08, 10:08 AM

Someone with more knowledge should give you the advice about what to do with her. Personally I think it is best to cull, but if your son is really bonded with her, that will be so very hard to do. And especially after the loss of the baby. I am sorry that you have to be in this position at all. Thats why I don't go to auctions, I just know that I will pick up anything that looks pathetic, abused, or "needs me". I am hopeless!!!

southerngurl · #33 12/31/08, 10:39 AM

Where is the knot on the udder? Just find out if it is really cl or not, and go from there. I have a doe with a bulge in one spot on her udder, it's like a weak spot, it goes down when I milk and comes up when she's really full.

manygoatsnmore · #34 12/31/08, 01:51 PM

I think as long as you have her isolated, I'd draw some fluid out of the knot and see what it is - send it off for testing, and use superglue to close up the needle stick site (with a backup bandage in case of breakthrough leakage). If it's CL, put her down, if it's not, wonderful. I just think it makes sense to know what you're dealing with before making a decision. JMHO

Yeah, after growing up on a dairy, I don't blame you for not wanting to get back into twice daily milking, especially when you have fresh milk available.

If I didn't have dd doing most of the milking, I don't know if I'd keep milking goats, either. I have carpal tunnel really bad, and work crazy hours that are hard on a goat that likes her routine.