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I agree looks like an abort. Watch her through the night. First thing in the morning you will need to call the vet if she is still laboring or has things hanging out of her. If you want to save the doe.

I'm sorry this is happening to your goat tonight....

I am sorry.


Would someone please explain why this looks like an abortion, I have never seen one, and I would have thought it looked like a normal birth.

she is pushing but nothing is coming out, should i try to assist the birth acting kinda tired and stuff falling asleep in between contractions

call a vet. I would have either gone in or called a vet 6 hours ago... of course, I'm paranoid.

I've never seen an abort, but possibly the kids are dead in there and she can't deliver them on her own. If she has been laboring this long with no results and she's shivering and acting odd, it is past time to get the vet involved!
Good luck and I really hope she makes it!

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Good luck!

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The main thing is don't panick and bother her too much. If it is an abortion, it could be that these goats had not eaten small bales of hay prior to you getting them. If you then started feeding small bales of hay, they could possibly have toxoplasmosis. After the first time, they build up an immunity and will not do this again. Consult the vet Friday about some antibiotics.

Is it possible the kid(s) are malpositioned? I'm just throwing that out and have zero experience.

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this being christmas eve i can't get the vet on the phone i have been checking on her every hour she has been in active labor (pushing) for i know 2 hours, how long it this stage suppose to last?

Has she made any progress at all? or do things still look the same?

i have not seen this before either. i would probably go in with my hand and feel what is going on. if this is the placenta, i guess by now she would have bled to death. do you have any goat people arounf or even people with sheep you can ask for help? where are you located?

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I really can't make anything out in the photo. Is there any way that you would feel comfortable enough to gently go in and feel around? If the kids aren't in the proper position, you can turn them around so the front feet and nose are pointed in the right direction. It sounds to me as if she is getting a little shocky (shivering, dozing).
Doesn't your vet have an answering service or emergency number? Is there another vet you can call or even a neighbor who raises livestock (even if it's cows, they might have more experience with assisting)?

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I personALy would be lubing up my fingers and going in to see what I could feel. My first delivery I was elbow deep in a goat. If she is fully dilated and it sounds like she is you can easly go all the way in. If she is not you will feel tight squeezing on your hand. I have never seen this. It looks like placenta first but yet I Have never seen this. If you go in have someone hold her head and twist her head so it touches her body once down she will not be able to get back up. You need to feel what is going on in there. But somethingis not right.

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finally got ahold of the vet he told me the same thing try to feel around for the babes and make sure they are pointed the right way i'll up date as soon as i can

That pic does not show anything I've seen in a normal delivery, even a delivery with malprop kids. Let us know what you feel when you go in.

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I was worried it might be a prolapse. Check out this site and see if it compares to what you are seeing:

http://das.psu.edu/goats/health/disease-image-gallery

Vaginal prolapse is on the bottom image.

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i couldn't get my hand very far in and she sure was in pain while i tried, i could feel a hoof, but couldn't get in far enough to do anything else

OK, now that I have done some research, I'm REALLY worried it is prolapse. Please google goat uterine or goat vaginal prolapse and see if it sounds like what is going on. If so, it requires immediate attention. If not, I apologize for suggesting it. But humor me and check it out. It involves goats "heavy with kids" and pushing and so forth.

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She is going to be in alot of pain I know I had h Big had shoved up me when i was having my twins and i screamed the whole time. It will hurt but It sounds like something is not right. You should feel 2 hooves and a head just a little behind the hooves like 3 or so inches.

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If you cannot feel the head the head may be twisted back and you will have to get the head twised around to the proper position. If you can feel a hoof she is most likely fully dilated.

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