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12/09/08, 07:49 AM
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I was thinking some kind of Schnauzer (the biggie) cross that would account for the wire-hair. Or Airdale (sp). Either way? He's a KEEPER!! What a pretty little (snicker) dog! Delicately made thing!
I have a ChessieXRottXLab cross and she looks like a large Lab but has the Chessie attitude... LOVE them big doggies...
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12/09/08, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Gailann Schrader
I was thinking some kind of Schnauzer (the biggie) cross that would account for the wire-hair. Or Airdale (sp). Either way? He's a KEEPER!! What a pretty little (snicker) dog! Delicately made thing!
I have a ChessieXRottXLab cross and she looks like a large Lab but has the Chessie attitude... LOVE them big doggies...
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Thank you! He is not going anywhere, he will be here a long time hopefully. I am a big dog person also. My smallest dog is 50 pounds.  I have an english mastiff, golden retriever, my Apollo, a lab/pit mix and a shepard mix. I have almost five hundred pounds of dogs! LOL
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12/09/08, 09:55 PM
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I htink mummy had an affair! LOL
Who knows what he's crossed with - something hairy! and big to have that size!
It amazes me how people still in this day do not know a b*tch can have puppies from more than one father. He's cute an dmaybe as he finishes growing you can post another pic and we may be able to get more of an idea of his sire...
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12/10/08, 08:33 PM
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if he is pure LGD mix, then i would say Komodor is in there somewhere, if its not a pure LGD mix then there is absolutly NO TELLING lol
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12/11/08, 08:51 AM
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Forget the hair. He doesn't have a purebred Pyr conformation. The set of his back legs says something to me as does his face/jawline but I can't put my finger on what. You say he looks like his dad and that nhis dad is hairy. That's vague as pyrs are generally hairy but we'll go with it. Under this assumption lets not be so quick to question the integrity of his mother. Lets consider how easy it is to fake papers. On the fathers papers under description it probably says something like "white, long hair". That could be any dog and therefore hints more at the integrity of the breeder. Well then there's the fact that he looked purebred at 7 weeks. probably his father did too so maybe his grandmother was the Jezabelle. Personally I blame nature. If nature hadn't interferred so many times, all that chemistry and generations of allowing dogs to have a domestic disposition and whatnot you woulkn't have the wonderful pup you have today. Enjoy it.
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12/11/08, 09:00 AM
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Forget the hair. He doesn't have a purebred Pyr conformation. The set of his back legs says something to me as does his face/jawline but I can't put my finger on what. You say he looks like his dad and that nhis dad is hairy. That's vague as pyrs are generally hairy but we'll go with it. Under this assumption lets not be so quick to question the integrity of his mother. Lets consider how easy it is to fake papers. On the fathers papers under description it probably says something like "white, long hair". That could be any dog and therefore hints more at the integrity of the breeder. Well then there's the fact that he looked purebred at 7 weeks. probably his father did too so maybe his grandmother was the Jezabelle. Personally I blame nature. If nature hadn't interferred so many times, all that chemistry and generations of allowing dogs to have a domestic disposition and whatnot you woulkn't have the wonderful pup you have today. Enjoy it.
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Can you tell me about the back legs, conformation. I have noticed that his back legs are awkward to say the least. It is like they go outwards. As far as his face and jawline, it is alot like pyr. The pictures are hard to tell with all that hair. You need to feel his head to really see it, lol.
I think papers are a joke. I care nothing for having a purebred dog. I have pets and love them all. I just think he is a very interesting "little" pup, and wanted everyone's opinion. I never considered a komodor before. I have been looking at pictures, but would love to see some that do not have the dreads. I would like to see the hair texture.
I love my boy, and I think he is perfect.
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12/11/08, 09:04 AM
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Here is a pic where you can see his hairline, almost like a normal pyr with a receding hairline.
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12/12/08, 08:03 PM
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12/12/08, 08:19 PM
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He has the double set of dew claws that a Pyr would have so there is definitely some in there
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12/18/08, 09:53 PM
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he is not a full pyrenese and I think standard poodle or irish wolfhound.
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12/18/08, 11:03 PM
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chainge of subject but your Mastiff is AWSOME<<<< i love love love thoughs dogs, i had one for the longest time, and will have again, they are AWSOME DOGS lol
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12/19/08, 12:46 PM
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I still think the cross is with Komondor. Quite a few people with LGD's have been cross-breeding the different breeds of LGD.
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06/09/09, 08:35 PM
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Your Apollo looks like my Lola. She was sold as a pyr. But with that hairy nose her last owner figured she was part komodor. She should be about a year old now and looks like she is starting to cord. I'll have to get some pics of her.
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06/09/09, 09:50 PM
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Some breeds, such as Alaskan Malamutes and Akitas, can have an "incorrect coat" show up in a puppy. Ethical breeders will have those dogs spayed, so that trait is NOT carried on. In Malamutes they used to be called, "woolies," and they had longer hairs mixed in with their coats. Those pictures remind me of a "wooly Malamute." I don't now if Pyrs have the same sort of incorrect coat occasionally show up.
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06/09/09, 10:07 PM
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My guess is some wolf hound. Komodors coat is wiry at least the ones I groomed. It's soft and fine to be able to dread. We dread their hair. it would dread somewhat naturally, but would mostly knot up.
So im voting against the komodor and going with wolfhound!!
And No poodle at all... With that muzzle.. no way! I would still say mostly pyr. Definitely looks pure as a baby! MAybe he is just going thru a difficult hair stage? Or maybe something that he's eatting or not eatting. Diet does alot to there hair..try adding some plain yogurt or vit e.
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06/10/09, 06:09 AM
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I was thinking some sort of large terrier, with the way the hair flies up into his eyes, but wolfhound makes sense too.
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06/10/09, 10:17 AM
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He looks like a friend's working LGD Fuzzy, who is a Pyr/Komondor cross. I'm not sure of the percentages though. That would be my first guess in your situation.
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06/10/09, 10:20 AM
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I think I have solved this mystery. This thread is old, lol. Apollo is now 15 months old, and I will attach a new picture of him. I have come to the conclusion that he had Old English sheepdog in his genes somewhere. The first clue was his back legs, and the shape of his behind. THEN, instead of losing dark patches of hair, he has GAINED a few. LOL He now has three large patches of BLACK hair. It cannot be seen unless you part his hair. I have been researching and looking at OES/pyr mixes and have found a lot of dogs that look just like him. So my guess is that his dad must have had some OES in him, he looks like APollo. But his mom is a PB pyr. So my guess, he is 3/4 pyr, and 1/4 OES.
BTW, I trim his hair out of his eyes, that's why it is not long in some of these. If I did not trim it, it would cover his eyes completely.
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06/10/09, 10:43 AM
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What a pretty dog he's become - OES does make sense! He's certainly gotten handsome!!! Give him a pat for me!
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06/10/09, 02:42 PM
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Hi Apollo looks fantastic!!! Don't have any idea what he might be mixed with... but the wiskers kind of remind be of a wolfhound that I once knew called Domino. And yes, my favirite over here is our bull mastiff Bluebell... She is awsome!!!
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