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08/31/08, 08:26 AM
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IF they are really only 0-3 weeks away from delivering, I would do my *special* super-duper, very scientific test........it's called the Grabb'nSqueeze!!
(It's amazing my doe Cayenne still talks to me...)
Whatchya' do is GRAB and SQUEEZE those mommies! This is a modification of the "bounce test". I usually stand behind them, lean over their back, wrap my arms around their belly, put my hands right in front of their udder attachment and start mushing. "Mushing" is the scientific term for pawing around, feeling for little squirmy things.....
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08/31/08, 08:32 AM
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Jill is right, you should be feeling some kicking going on. I think you need to spend more time with them. Scratch their armpit while holding your hand on their tummy and wait for a kick.
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08/31/08, 04:03 PM
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Ok if we are guessing I am going to say
1. yes
2. yes
3. yes
4. yes
5. no
Thats my guess and I am sticking to it!! LOL
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08/31/08, 06:46 PM
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I will go feel again but I suck at it. You would think that after 6 human babies, I would be able to distinguish that movement
I'm pretty sure that I felt movement on the second to the last one, which is the one that got the most "no" votes. Go figure.
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08/31/08, 07:14 PM
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Jill Im going to remember your mushing technique. Picklespickles you are in frighfully good company.
Cliff I got all mixed up I couldnt tell who was who with all the pics but I yam blonde at heart  . Had to laugh..didnt know you had pics of 5 not 7!
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09/01/08, 06:57 AM
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Do you have a stethoscope? Sometimes you can hear the additional heart beats, a good way to tell and really cool to hear!
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09/04/08, 07:31 AM
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I'll hold your hand  I'm in the same boat.
Bought a girl back in May, prev. owner kept her in a herd with two bucks. She was thin when I brought her home.
Posted pooch for pooch test- overwhelmingly told yes she looked pg.
Now.. 3months into it.. she looks like she swollowed a beach ball. Big round belly on her. BUT no bagging up at all to the point that her teats seem to be attached further up than the lowest part of her belly. Ligs seem to come and go, so I'm not sure I'm reading those right at all.
Wondering if I'm overfeeding her or if she is pregnant, but jeez I bet she's put on 1/3 of her original weight since she's been here. She's a bit of a wild child, so hates to have me feeling around on her belly.
Last night belly looked like it had 'dropped' but still no udder to speak of... again, maybe she's just.. um.. cuddly LOL!
And have a date with a boy set for her in November.. if she's not. Gawd the waiting has driven me crazy though. She's an Alpine mix, so I thought if she WAS bred, she would have birthed by now since the season would have ended Feb/March... But I'm a newbie so what the heck do I know.
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09/04/08, 01:54 PM
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Still no babies here and only a couple weeks left of when that could have been possible. It will be a pretty curious thing if I ran a buck with my girls for 4 weeks resulting in NO pregnancies. The buck is proven but, again, was an ND running with mostly standard does. He might just not be that ambitious.
However, my ND may not even be pregnant. If she is not, I have arrangements for her but am not sure what to do with the rest of the crew at this point if they're still open. With 5 it seems best to bring a guy in, rather than trying to bring them to him.
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09/05/08, 11:25 AM
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Judging by the bellies, Carmel and Herriot look pg to me. No guesses on the others. Goats can look "fat" one day and flat or thin the next, depending on how much browse or hay they got, so that isn't a good indication. I think Carmel looks like she's carrying kids on her right side (which is where I would look at the belly for kids- she how she's bigger on the right?); her backside also looks somewhat loose, which could be another clue, but like Vicki suggested, that could also be a sign of estrus. Herriot looks like she's carrying also and is within a month of freshening as that side looks "dropped," and her backside looks to be a little bit loose. Can you feel for softening ligaments? It's easier if you've had experience with pg does before. If they are very hard, like pencils, and do not soften close to the time expected for freshening, they likely aren't bred. Do dairy shaves on your girls and watch their right sides for movement...that should give you a good indication!
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09/05/08, 11:57 AM
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I've had pregnant does every year for several years now but I'm still bad at this. I agree that Herriot looks the most pregnant. Also, she's been dry for 18 months but has milk now so hopefully, I'll get SOMETHING.
Herriot's ligaments are pretty soft on one side so we'll see. I need to count back through my calendar just to be sure that I have it straight but we're running out of time that delivery is even a possibility.
Herriot did act like she was in heat the first few days that the buck was here. Its possible that he did not catch her that time but the next time she came in which would put her due date sometime in the next week or so.
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09/05/08, 03:32 PM
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HAHAHA! Sorry, this is So much like me. I have one goat that in the morning will be all flat sided, then at night Huge. Once my sis saw her in the morning and asked What happened to the other 1/2 of that goat?
She is now on the maybe list, but she'll keep me guessing until the day.
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09/07/08, 02:48 AM
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I pressed into the side of each goat and, unless their bowels can flip and kick back, there are babies in at least two. We'll see.
The last day they could be due is Sept 17th. In other words, the buck left our place 150 days before 9/17.
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09/07/08, 06:46 AM
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More dharma, less drama.
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I thought it could be up to 156 days.
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09/07/08, 09:09 AM
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My horse went 16 days over-due this year; my mom's mare went 8 days over.....never give up!
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09/07/08, 07:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rose
I thought it could be up to 156 days. 
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09/07/08, 09:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cjb
Kill me now.
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No can do!
You have to stay around long enough to take pics of the ones you are going to have!!
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