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Janis Sauncy 05/30/08 09:17 AM

I'm so sorry, Pam.

You did great, though. Unfortunately, you were dealt a rotten deck of cards.

It's sad your first experience had to be such a bad one but at least, trying to look at it positively, you learned a lot and you found a supportive group of people who are here to help you in the future.

I will look forward to congratulating you the day you post here about the two (at least!) healthy additions to your family!

Take care.

Janis

CookingPam777 05/30/08 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jyllie63 (Post 3105614)
Pam, you can try Petfinder.com too! I see lots of goats on there.

Or try a goat rescue adoption place

southerngurl 05/30/08 09:52 AM

Awww, I'm sorry. :(

Minelson 05/30/08 09:57 AM

Well, you sure did do everything for sweet Baaabs. It's so nice that she got to transition in loving arms rather than a cold, dark lonely barn somewhere. Or the back of a pickup or something. We all learned a lot from your experience, thank you for sharing it with us, even though it is very sad. :grouphug: So very sorry for your loss....

Sweet Goats 05/30/08 11:46 AM

OH Pam, I am really really sorry about the outcome, but you have to look at it like this. You have that adorable baby a bit if heaven here on earth before she was called up.

Also, It was a learning experience for all of us. I am sure that we all learned from this, she she did not pass in vain. :grouphug:

I have to agree, you have a beautiful puppy that needs your love now.

gerald77 05/30/08 12:31 PM

oh i am so sorry.

mamita 05/30/08 12:33 PM

I'm so sorry for your loss. you were wonderful and did everything a person could do. I really admire you. (((((HUGS)))))

Patt 05/30/08 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mamita (Post 3113108)
I'm so sorry for your loss. you were wonderful and did everything a person could do. I really admire you. (((((HUGS)))))

I agree!

cathleenc 05/30/08 01:01 PM

that little goat went out knowing some powerful love. Not a bad way to go!

Bless you for pouring yourself into her. May all that love and care come back to you ten-fold.

I am sorry.

LaManchaPaul 05/30/08 01:31 PM

Condolences. Paul

Rockytopsis 05/30/08 01:37 PM

Pam, I am so sorry for the loss of Baaabs.

Jyllie63 05/30/08 01:50 PM

Pam, I'm so sorry!

crazygoatgal 05/30/08 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cathleenc (Post 3113171)
that little goat went out knowing some powerful love. Not a bad way to go!

Bless you for pouring yourself into her. May all that love and care come back to you ten-fold.

I am sorry.

I second that, Pam. I am so sorry. Her little life touched us all and her struggle taught all of us something. God bless you.

crazygoatgal 05/30/08 02:41 PM

I just pm'd you

Gunnie 05/30/08 03:01 PM

Im so sorry for your loss!

Pammielu 05/30/08 03:13 PM

I just thought I would ask if I should have a picture of her posted? If you all wanted to see that strong willed baby or better off not seeing her? I know that maybe not seeing the face makes it not so much of a reality. So I just thought I would ask, let me know either way. I have had a couple offers to post her picture, but during the battle I just didn't feel it was right. So I am leaving it all up to you all, my goat friends;) I didn't know so many people were reading this. Today is the first day, I think, that I have payed attention to all the people that have read this thread. Amazing, how can I thank you all?


BTW, I will still need help posting the picture if that is what I decide to do, sorry. my husband went and signed up with a better internet provider today. So hopefully by wednesday I will be moving a lot faster.

Oh, My pup, Apollo, checked out more than perfect at the vet today! He has gained 7 pounds in less than 3 wks. He weighed in at 17.8 pounds. He will be 9 wks on Monday.

Pam (still smiling)

Jyllie63 05/30/08 03:40 PM

Pam, I would LOVE to see a picture of your precious girl! I'll be glad to post it for you if you want.

Zone 05/30/08 03:50 PM

Yes. Please post the pic.

Minelson 05/30/08 03:58 PM

Yes! I would love to see Baaabs :)

I'm glad Apollo had a good vet visit...what kind of dog is he? I have a new pup too :)

Pammielu 05/30/08 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minelson (Post 3113580)
Yes! I would love to see Baaabs :)

I'm glad Apollo had a good vet visit...what kind of dog is he? I have a new pup too :)

He is a great pyrenees. What kind to you have?

anita_fc 05/30/08 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pammielu (Post 3112543)
I am taking my puppy to the vet today to make sure he is doing alright. I originally had an appointment for Monday, when he turns 9 weeks old. His training has been lagging since I have been so busy with Baaabs. So I am going to put all my time and energy into him for now, and let my heart mend a little before getting a couple of new kids, weaned kids, healthy kids. Can't be too too long, as Apollo needs to know he is a goat dog.

Oh Pam! I got so wrapped up in Baaabs' odyssey that I forgot all about your puppy. What breed is Apollo again? Sounds like he's doing great! I wouldn't worry too much about not getting him on livestock at 8 weeks of age. The guidelines published for LGDs are primarily for true range dogs, those that must *avoid* the companionship of humans. Small acreage dogs - those who are also our companions - can usually be introduced at any age.

I am so sorry you lost Baaabs. My hubby likes to say that animals are given to us on loan from God, and some of the special ones get called home sooner. You did your very best for Baaabs. The road back was just a little too rough for her, so she is in a better place now. In her short little life, she fostered the education of many, as well as some lasting friendships. None of us are likely to forget her.

It's tough for us animal lovers to recognize that some people actually don't care one whit for the life of an animal. :grit: They think animals are just here to be exploited. We can only do our best to educate the ignorant (on the off chance that the person who sold her to you was just uninformed), or punish the truly cruel to try to prevent such future acts of cruelty.

After a day or two of recovery, I'm totally with Vicki on attempting to track down the seller. That person needs to either be informed, or threatened with legal action to keep him from repeating this travesty. As a dog trainer who taught classes for years, my first reaction is to want to educate. But as a former police dispatcher married to a police sergeant (ret), we are also VERY big on enforcing existing laws.

For those who don't care about the feelings of animals, that's the only tool we animal lovers have.

Bless you, Pam, for the gargantuan effort you put forth for this poor little baby. I would love to see her picture.

Hugs :grouphug:

Anita

anita_fc 05/30/08 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pammielu (Post 3113585)
He is a great pyrenees. What kind to you have?

Oh cool! Asked and answered before I posted my msg. :-)

Here is a link to our crew:
http://www.gndt.net/craftons/petpics.htm
Anita C.

Backfourty,MI. 05/30/08 10:57 PM

I am so so sorry for your loss Pam, It was such a struggle but so glad she had you even for the short time she knew she was Loved! we are all sure of that. Would love to see little Baabs picture and also looking forward to the day you get new goats & post their pictures here for us all to see! Big Hugs to you & your family!!
Good luck with the puppy training too!

Minelson 05/30/08 11:22 PM

Mine is an Australian Shepherd. His dad is regular size and his mom is a mini. I think he is going to be on the larger size...he is growing so fast. We had a tragedy here on April 12th...lost our beloved German Shepherd (BoBo) to a horse accident. So I got "RockStar" aka "Rocky" to help with distraction and motivation. He is really a cutie..I got him at 7 weeks and he is 12 weeks old now. Here is a picture of him
http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/4...ZM2bloyYg9vPgY
http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/4...ZM2bloyYg9vPgY

TC 05/30/08 11:35 PM

I'm so sorry, Pam, you really did do great with her. It is always so hard to lose one.

Pammielu 06/04/08 06:19 PM

I was thinking about you all today, so I thought I would try to post a picture of my Baaabs. I hope it works. I know it has been a few days now, but I am still thinking of her. Here goes.....






http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z...Picture622.jpg


If that worked, I took this picture the day she went down.


http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z...Picture572.jpg


And hopefully, this is Baaabs and Apollo out for some fun.

Tallabred 06/04/08 07:02 PM

She was adoraaaaable! How your heart must ache.

Backfourty,MI. 06/04/08 07:40 PM

She was adorable and Apollo is as cute as can be too. You'll find another little sweet goat for your Apollo even though she or he will be different of course you'll love the new baby too. Good luck to you and hope to see you around here.

Minelson 06/04/08 08:09 PM

ohhh I'm so sorry she is gone. What a cutie! I'm sure you miss her very much.
Apollo is darling!!! I hope you can find him a playmate soon :) thanks for posting the pictures and I can't wait to see more when you get another goat...

Jyllie63 06/04/08 08:33 PM

Oh Pam...she was adorable! She reminds me of my Petrie :Bawling:

Minelson 06/04/08 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jyllie63 (Post 3122108)
Oh Pam...she was adorable! She reminds me of my Petrie :Bawling:

She does look like Petrie...I remember that picture. Well, Baaabs, Petrie and my BoBo are happy with no pain and playing together in heaven. (BoBo loved baby goats and was very gentle with them)

Janis Sauncy 06/05/08 08:08 AM

She was definitely a cutie. Boar/Nubian cross?

Apollo is adorable, too.


Janis

BethW 06/05/08 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jyllie63 (Post 3122108)
Oh Pam...she was adorable! She reminds me of my Petrie :Bawling:

Jill, I was thinking the same thing. Sweet, sweet Petrie is probably romping around with Baabs right now...where nothing ever hurts and the meadows are lush and green:)

Pam, she was just precious. Glad at least her final days were with the sense of safety and love that you gave her.

Kaitlin 06/06/08 09:24 AM

Sorry for your loss. She was a lovely little thing.

crazygoatgal 06/07/08 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BethW (Post 3123551)
Jill, I was thinking the same thing. Sweet, sweet Petrie is probably romping around with Baabs right now...where nothing ever hurts and the meadows are lush and green:)

Pam, she was just precious. Glad at least her final days were with the sense of safety and love that you gave her.

I lost it good by the time I got to this post!!!!!! Oh, she was so adorable and her pic really made her real to me not just a story or a problem to solve. I would've scooped her up so fast if I had seen her at that flea market. I wish you could show her pic to a judge and get the bas***d prosecuted. By the way, I never cuss--thats how mad it makes me!!!!!!!!!!! OK, I stopped crying now.

Beaners 06/07/08 09:57 AM

I followed this thread, and I really hoped that she would make it. I am so sorry for your loss, although her stay with you was short on time, it was long on love. You did good.

Kayleigh


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