Yes, Walmart would have the vitamin E in their supplements section. If they have alfalfa, it's probably pellets rather than hay. She might eat the pellets better if they are broken up -- they are pretty hard. Or get a small bag of rabbit food -- it's mostly alfalfa, and I don't think there's anything in there that would hurt her. The rabbit food I have (for my rabbits) is a smaller pellet than the alfalfa pellets I used to get for the goats, and would probably be easier for a baby to eat.

She most likely wouldn't intend to bite you -- the times I've been bitten, I'm sure it wasn't their intention to hurt me, I just had my finger in the wrong place at the wrong time!

I sure hope she recovers and does well for you. Have you named her yet?

Kathleen

How is she doing this morning? You are truly her saviour and she is going to be a spoiled rotten little when you get done with her. She will have you wrapped around her little hoof, at least I hope so.

I was thinking the same thing :cute:

This morning she is not better. She can not stand at all, but she is still eating about an ounce at a time. Don't know what else to do. I am trying not to give up on her, she seems to not have given up yet. Hopefully I can get her to make it until Tuesday!

Her name is Baaabs. I named her after my friend of 20 yrs plus. That was my first real uh oh when I took her to the vet. They never asked her name, just had her down as goat. :(

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Pammielu- love the name! This is only a suggestion. Maybe you should take her with you(in a crate) and try to feed her every half hour. See if you can dissolve some probiotics in her milk bottle. It sounds like she is just so weak that you just have to keep that milk going. Can you get any goat milk from a store or is there someone around that has goats? I know my stores have an organic section with goats milk, but its like the Parmalat stuff. Its in a cardboard box in the non frig section. Good luck!

I'm having trouble posting UGH! you need to get C&D Bactern - Antitoxin injection into her. Not C&D/T. Antitoxin will work faster. The neigbor vet should have it or call the emergency phone number that should be on your vets answering machine. Since she is not doing better this morning I don't think you can make it 2 more days...like the other poster said any 4H people or livestock neigbors that can help??? keep us posted I will be thinking about her all day

That doesn't necessarily mean anything. I know she's a pet to you, but goats are livestock, and most people don't name all their livestock, so don't take offense at that.

Have you got any yogurt down her yet? And I would get the Vitamin E as soon as you can -- it's just possible that her problem does include white muscle disease, and the Vitamin E will help with that pretty quickly.

Kathleen

I have got some yogurt into her. Last night I gave her a couple bites, but this morning I filled a small syringe with 2 tsp anf she took it pretty easy. So how much more should I give her? Also, hubby is on his way home with vitamin E. I just took her outside to get a little sun, and she is trying to stand up. She is taking the bottle a lot better, but still not taking more than an ounce. I feed her every hour or less. And I didn't leave her today, stayed home with her. I don't know what my husband will come home with, I told him capsules so I could squirt it in her mouth. Do I give her just one? Thank you all so much for thinking of my little princess. LOL I have been calling her that for days now, too many boys around here, I was ready for a little pink! My last four animals have been boys, and also my last two children are boys! Going to go check on her now...Pam

I did the same thing with the "Little Princess" name. I just couldn't think of a name for a particular little doeling one year and she acted like the sweetest little princess that you have ever seen. Well, guess what her name is now? Yup! I guess you don't have to be a rocket scientist to know the answer to that one.

I would give her more yogurt if she will take it...I don't think you could really over dose her on that. :)

Pammie, on the Vit. E capsules, squirt one into her mouth twice a day for at least three or four days. It's starting to sound like she might have a chance! Good going!

Kathleen

So glad to hear she's doing better!

Another update. I don't think she is going to make it through the night. She is so so weak now, and not eating alot. So I have been feeding her with the syringe. At least I can make sure she is getting some. Last feeding was almost an hour ago, and I fed her 2 ounces. Keep your fingers crossed for us!

oh no! I hope and pray she makes it :(

I am sending jingles to you both. All fingers and toes are crossed. Cathy

Heavy hearted....
 

I think her time is up. I hate to say that I am giving up, but I think she has. That look is gone in her eyes. I am very sad. And I am dreading the next time I go check on her, or the next. So, guess I will go shed some tears and sit with my mastiff, Dante. :Bawling: He always makes me happy. I will let you all know what happens next. Thanks for being so helpful and thinking of us.



BTW: I have not given up on my goat herd. Soon I will find another little girl, a healthy one from a breeder. Maybe I should start researching what breed I may want. I grew up with Nubians. I have time to figure that out, I have a hole that has to heal some before I start digging another one. Thanks again, Pam

i'm very sorry you have to go through this.
i hope you will find lots of time to research about goat management before you get another one.
this kid might never had a chance from the beginning. so very sad.i can not understand how it is possible to sell animals at a flea market?

You would think it would be against the law to take a baby away from its mother too early. I mean if you think about it this man got her from the stock barn when she was 3 weeks old. Who knows when she was taken from her mom. That is a shame. By the looks of him, I am sure he didn't make sure she was fed, and a goat isn't going to just let another baby nurse. She did look so pitiful and sickly compared to the other kids, I guess that's why I took her. Should have known better is all I am going to say. What really made me mad, is I never seen that she had an umbilical cord until days later. It was cut so short, on purpose I'm sure, the only way I found it when I was rubbing her belly. That's when I freaked out and thought she should still be nursing. Shows how well the vet looked her over. Oh well. I am going to go check on her now.

I'm so sorry you have to be going through this. Infant goats go through the sale barns all the time. Mostly, they are intended for immediate slaughter, or are brought in with their dams and then get separated in the process of the auction. A friend once picked up a couple of doelings for me that were less than two weeks old. They were immediately started on the bottle and fed pasteurized goat's milk. They did very well. One I sold at about two years old and the other I still own. She went on to become a champion Grade La Mancha. I no longer buy auction goats. It's too much of a risk, nor do I send to auction anything too young to be weaned. I know our hearts go out to the runts and otherwise frail looking animals, but when I'm in the market for any animal, I choose the healthy, strong ones. I hope your baby makes it, but if she doesn't, know you tried your best and she was lucky to have you.

Unfortunately I know exactly what you're feeling. I was given a little runt boer goat by my cousin. We knew something was wrong with him, but I couldn't just leave him there because I knew what my cousin was going to do to him (his animals are animals...not pets like mine :D ). We had Petrie for 2 months and the day he died I knew I wouldn't see him alive again when I left for work. I made him very comfy (in the back of our trailer LOL) and I dreaded opening that door when I got home. He had passed away and I was so sad. But, I at least gave him a chance at life and he knew we all loved him. Your little doeling has felt love and compassion from you over these past few days. If only all animals were that lucky.

I wish you lived closer....I have 4 little babies that I would love to find good homes for. I would GIVE 2 of them to you because I know you would do your best with them. You're not coming to Ohio anytimes soon are you ;)

Think of it as a learning experience.. You've learned lots of very useful information about taking care of a sick goat..

Actually,no, I won't be in Ohio anytime soon. But I do have family in Ohio. My parents always got their Nubians from a farm there. What part do you live in? Dayton is 5 hours away, that's where my aunt and uncle live. Thank you for the offer, I wish I could love them! Thanks again, Pam

That was my last thought last night. BUT I woke up this morning and she was holding up her head looking for me! I would have guaranteed she would not be here this morning. Some time in the night, I just went to bed feeling defeated. Her milk is warming and I hope she eats good. Let's see what happens!

Very encouraging news! :dance:

Jeepers! What a roller coaster ride! I was holding my breath reading the posts. Is there any chance you can find some C&D Bactern - Antitoxin today? I'm glad she made it through the night :)

not at all against the law to sell kids early. i sell as early as two days old but i educate the buyer and would not want to sell a kid and have it starved for a couple of days because they don't know this baby still needs a bottle. it is not a good idea to buy an animal based on the cute factor without any knowledge. this is the best way for a disaster to happen and very often the price has to be payed from the baby with it's life.
i sure hope you will find the time and research what it needs to have a healthy goat beyond the baby stage.

I am fully taking responsibility of what has happened to my kid. But she was sold to me under false circumstances in my opinion. I was told she was old enough to eat on her own, my fault for not knowing any better. When I brought her home I got her a bottle and tried to feed her, because I thought for some reason she should still be on a bottle. She would not have it all she wanted to do was graze and she also was eating her feed. I assumed the man was right. I took her to the vet, coming out of there not knowing anything more than I did going in. She had an upper respiratory infection, she gave her a shot of Nuflor, and she didn't want to do anything else until that cleared up. I was to bring her back tomorrow, which if she is still alive I will take her to my other vet of choice. I have done all and more than I can at this point. The vet said he would call if he made it back early enough and for me to keep him posted. So for those of you that think I done a terrible thing, I am sorry, maybe I did. But I have learned alot from this and that is what makes us human. I did not intend for this to happen, and you can be sure that it will not happen again. I have always been an animal lover and would never intentionally hurt one. My friends and family think I am crazy, or call me weird by the way I feel about animals. I have sure got alot of criticism over my goat. That is just me. I do not want you all to think that I am some stupid person that does not have a clue, I do. But still we learn something new everyday, sometimes just wished you could have learned it sooner. That's all I wanted to say. Thanks for reading, I have a goat to feed. Pam

Pam:

Being an animal lover myself, and not having a lot of common sense at times because of it, I tend to also gravitate to those animals that are the most needy. Unfortunately, I've also had the grief that accompanies the choices I've made.

I probably would have bought her, too.

I hope she pulls through for you and you have many happy years with her. If that happens, she will always be "special" to you. Either way, you have learned a lot already.

Don't get discouraged.

Janis

(((PAM))) You're doing a great job!

Also think about what her life would have been like had you not bought her. No matter the outcome at least she had a chance.

Good luck and I hope she keeps improving.

Make sure that the yogurt you're giving her is active culture. Better yet, instead of yogurt get some Probiotics from the feed store.

To increase her energy, try goat Nutri-Drench OR, if that's not available at your feed store, ask for a cow energy/ketosis supplement.

If she is willing to eat grains and/or hay, provide it to her as well. Calf manna is great, if she'll take it. She should also have access to water.

I think you are doing a great job -- let us know how she's doing this morning!

Kathleen

I am new too. I have been VERY impressed by the positive comments and advise. I used to be on a horse forum but everything you posted was attacked by negativity.

Your lack of knowledge let you "rescue" this baby. Those with more knowledge would resist the heartache that you are enduring.

I keep sending jingles!!!!

This is true -- most of us with experience would never have bought a goat kid at a flea market, especially not if she'd already been run through an auction. So Pammie's inexperience has given this baby a chance, at least!

Kathleen

I've owned goats on and off for a few years and I still would have rescued this little girl ;) . Which is why I wear my heart on my sleeve when it comes to animals.

I sure don't think that. I think you have done a wonderful job in spite of the obstacles. You OBVIOUSLY knew things weren't adding up, else you would not have sought additional advice here, after seeing a vet. Pats on the back to you! :goodjob:

I was so happy to see that she's still hanging in there for you. Every now and then, you win one. I hope that's the case here!

Prayers,
Anita C.

Thank you all for the encouraging words. I was feeling pretty good about how she is doing. I just fed her, and she is eating 2 to 3 ounces each time. And I was wiping her face and eyes, and noticed her eyelids are a bright pink. I know that has to be a good sign. But I would like to know how much milk should I be trying to get her to eat now? She weighs no more than 10 pounds. Still haven't officially weighed her. Her eyes are having some discharge from them now. I have the eye oinment the vet gave me. You all think I should use some of that on them now? I can not wait to get up and take her to the vet tomorrow. Long long weekend!

Yes - go ahead and use the eye ointment. I can't imagine that the vet gave you any ointment that would have a negative outcome. I use eye ointment on my foals at first sign of discharge or a reddish look to the eyelids.

I am soooo glad that she is doing better. I have been jingling for her all day!

So....how is she this morning? (fingers crossed)