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Old 04/21/08, 06:00 PM
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I am feeding 16 ounces 3x a day.
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I looked at Fiascofarm.com, and it says to bottle feed for about three months.

She also says not to bottle feed water and not to use replacer.

She recommends store bought cow milk over replacer, too.
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Old 04/21/08, 08:18 PM
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Why is it so important they don't receive water if you are not replacing the milk in any way?
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Why is it so important they don't receive water if you are not replacing the milk in any way?
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I would not give him the water in the bottle. If you fill him up on water, he won't keep eating enough hay, etc. Just leave it out in a pan - he'll figure it out if he's thirsty.
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Old 04/21/08, 10:12 PM
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Putting water in his tummy replaces *something.* If he's full of water, he can't eat as much food.
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Old 04/22/08, 06:33 AM
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I find beet pulp to be good for putting on weight without the worry of over-graining. You might try that.

I understand the small amount of milk if you are weaning now, but if the most he was ever getting was 8 ounces 3x/day, that is why he is small. That is not really enough milk for any regular-breed (not mini) kid over the age of 2 weeks.

I would not give him the water in the bottle. If you fill him up on water, he won't keep eating enough hay, etc. Just leave it out in a pan - he'll figure it out if he's thirsty.
I understand that. But he eats a ton of hay all day long it does not affect him.
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Old 04/22/08, 06:41 AM
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He certainly seems to be eating a mountian full of food. As I said I see him eat hay all day long he eats a ton of grain. In total he get 48 oz. of milk a day. He eats lemon balm like crazy. And everyday he gets healthy snacks like fruits and veggies. So this water doesn't seem to affect him in any way. If you have it he eats it. He is never not hungry. I usually hear him cry 2 hours ahead of time and tell him he's gotta wait and bring him out a treat to tide him over. The doeling I have on the same diet is thriving. She is a HUGE girl! So why the difference?
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You won't need to give him water in a bottle, just put it in a bucket for them to choose to have. I never wean babies until 3 months or more old depending on weight. My babies also eat all the hay they want and they get grain now at almost 8 weeks old. If you are going to sub some milk use whole cow milk from the store and use it 1/2 and 1/2 with your goat milk or use it 100% instead of goat milk. Have you cocci treated, wormed?


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I was looking up cocci treatment and don't know if I am understanding so just how do you treat for it? I looked at websites and they recommend different things or else I am just confused. I honestly didn't know you could worm babies this young. I thought you only wormed adults. Do you give it to them in like a shot or what? It makes sense that worms would build up in babies like big goats. Now that I know this I want to do my other one to. I guess I will wait she has been so drugged up.
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You give it orally from a syringe (no needle). We use Di-Methox. You start at 3 weeks old-treat for 5 days, treat again in another 3 weeks.

Here is a link that will give you doses.

Here is a Weight tape chart-you measure their chest and it will tell you how much they weigh so you will know what to dose them at.

Worming is started at 4 weeks old. Do you have any wormer? I use Cydectin or Ivermectin for cattle (pour on or injectable works well). It is all given by mouth no matter what it says on the bottle. Tell us what you have access to and we will tell you how much to give.

You start worming when they are 4 weeks old. I wouldn't wait on any of your goats, worm all of them as soon as you get some wormer. Don't use pellets or safeguard-find a good wormer and it will last you a really long time. If you know any cattle farmers, maybe you could buy some from them instead of having to buy some.

I am glad you are trying to learn what to do, you will be a pro in no time.
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If the hay is not of high quality, it won't put weight on. Sort of like if you ate iceberg lettuce all day.

Do you have a digital camera? Can you post a picture of this buckling?
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Old 04/22/08, 07:19 AM
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I can try to post a pic. I am feeding horse grade hay. A little less than maybe the highest quality stuff but still good stuff.
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Old 04/22/08, 07:42 AM
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Pics just ain't like when you see something in real life is it? My other goat way bigger in the pics looks the same size.
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My computer is so dumb! Since I have a laser mouse that plugs into the moniter it blocks the other place you plug in at so you would have to take out the needed mouse to get the camera to come on then you wouldn't be able to get anywhere because you couldn't select the pics you want.
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Old 04/22/08, 08:03 AM
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And here he is:

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I definantly don't think he has gained 10 pounds.
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Is the picture working for people I can't see it.
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Skinny Goat Eggs? - Goats Anyone know how to delete some of the blank posts from me trying to get it to wrok?

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He looks over all small for his age.

Coccidia treatment , worming and keep up with whole milk.

He should be getting hay 24/7 and also grain alone not with larger animals.

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Old 04/22/08, 08:48 AM
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Now may I have an opinion here please. I knew next to nothing about goats. I figured a goat was a goat they all give milk. And once you committed to buy you couldn't go back on it so that is how I have had Buckaroo and Snow. They both have had weight problems. Do you think it something wrong with her herd? Snow is fattened up and fine now. But both goats I got from her have had problems of some sort. So what do you think about buying from this lady? Do you think it just happened to be? Or somethings really wrong?
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