 |
|

11/21/07, 07:37 PM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Washington
Posts: 2,832
|
|
|
That man would never set a foot on that property or in that house again after doing something so incredibly cruel and unnecessary. You very simply don't treat anything that way, not your wife, not your daughter, and most certainly not the defenseless family goat!
If he had been an actual man and upset, he would have told his daughter to pen the goats and clean up the mess and walked away until he calmed down. He's perfectly capable of getting his own beer if he wants it so badly. If things are so intolerable at home, divorces aren't *that* hard to get and then everyone can go their seperate ways. (yes, I know that to some divorce is anathema. But it's a better solution than shooting a family pet and letting it suffer!)
To gut shoot the family goat because you're mad is just so far beyond the pale that I simply can't believe anyone is defending that brute. (not calling him a man, because he ain't one in my book)
|

11/21/07, 09:11 PM
|
 |
Banned
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Right Here
Posts: 3,280
|
|
|
.
ANY OTHER JUDGES WANT A SPOUT OF AT ME ? ? ?
None of you people were there, and you do not know all of the story, how any of it REALLY happened.
I have killed may animals in different ways.
That mans 22 year old daughter knows not to let the goats out and make a mess, but she did not care and the man got tired of dealing with it and shot the goat. Maybe he thought the goat was dead but found out later the goat was still alive after the sheriff got there the story does not say.
I told my oldest son ( 19 at the time ) one time years ago not to leave food for our cat on the front porch again because it drew hundreds of ant and became a problem or I would take the cat to the dog pound.
I went out of town for a week to work on a job but the job was cancelled and I came home after the first day.
Yes the cat food was on the porch and the cat went to the dog pound and I would say put to sleep, just like I said I would.
My son started to try to blame me, and I told him now you killed the cat by not believing what I said I would do it he did what I told him NOT to do.
But he thought I was not serious. He believes me now.
I do not know the whole reason why the man shot the goat, but it is still just a goat.
Maybe he shot the goat because the wife refused to get his beer I don't know and you don't either.
Oh I have not shot or kicked my wife in almost 16 years of marriage.
But maybe that disappoints some of you.
If the man really enjoyed what he did to the goat
he would have shot the other goat also.
The judge was not to concerned he only had him on a 1000 dollar bond, because the judge knows he is not a danger to society, or his family which he did not hurt.
To many people want to lump everyone who does something they don't like into to a life time prison.
That is just wrong and using no common sense.
bumpus
.
|

11/21/07, 09:15 PM
|
 |
Banned
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Right Here
Posts: 3,280
|
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by BethW
Bumpus' defense of this situation and his reasoning behind his defense speaks of a mental condition.
I'd bet my paycheck as a psychologist that the man in the story has a history of abuse to people or animals or both.
|
Bet your paycheck ... Based on what?
The little news clip which said almost nothing.
I don't want you checking me out.
You might loose your yearly income.
bumpus
.
|

11/21/07, 09:20 PM
|
 |
Appalachian American
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: SW VA
Posts: 10,637
|
|
Sorry Bumpus, but there's no excuse for what he did. He was drunk, mean, and deserves to spend some time in jail. I'm just glad it was a goat and not his daughter.
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by bumpus
Oh I have not shot or kicked my wife in almost 16 years of marriage.
|
I guess she's learned to do as she's told.
I'm afraid we've learned more about you than we really wanted to know.
|

11/21/07, 09:29 PM
|
 |
Banned
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Right Here
Posts: 3,280
|
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by deaconjim
Sorry Bumpus, but there's no excuse for what he did. He was drunk, mean, and deserves to spend some time in jail. I'm just glad it was a goat and not his daughter.
I guess she's learned to do as she's told.
I'm afraid we've learned more about you than we really wanted to know.
|
deaconjim ... You don't know about me, you just think you do.
No one on HT makes anyone read anything.
People read because they want to know.
Everyone makes there own free choice to read or not read.
bumpus
.
|

11/21/07, 09:31 PM
|
 |
Incubator Addict
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Greensburg, PA
Posts: 3,111
|
|
|
Could everyone please stop quoting people that I have on ignore? This thread was disturbing enough before I had to read the garbage being spewed here.
Kayleigh
|

11/21/07, 09:31 PM
|
 |
Appalachian American
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: SW VA
Posts: 10,637
|
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by bumpus
deaconjim ... You don't know about me, you just think you do.
No one on HT makes anyone read anything.
People read because they want to know.
Everyone makes there own free choice to read or not read.
bumpus
.
|
No one on HT makes anyone write anything.
People write because they want people to read.
People are judged on what they write.
Based on what I've read, I don't want to know you.
|

11/21/07, 09:41 PM
|
 |
Banned
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: New Brunswick, Canada
Posts: 2,369
|
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Beaners
Could everyone please stop quoting people that I have on ignore? This thread was disturbing enough before I had to read the garbage being spewed here.
Kayleigh
|
I have to see what it looks like! Am I on your list????  don't answer that!!!
|

11/21/07, 09:43 PM
|
 |
Banned
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Right Here
Posts: 3,280
|
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Beaners
Could everyone please stop quoting people that I have on ignore? This thread was disturbing enough before I had to read the garbage being spewed here.
Kayleigh
|
I know what you mean.
Most people on he have the man heading to death roe because of a simple little goat as if it was a person.
Also the goat belonged to the man to do what he wanted.
This Court Case is another off shot from the politics of people like PETA and groups just like them and Big City people moving to the country and trying to make pets out of everything so you can't kill any thing just like dogs, cats and horses today.
And it won't be long you can't kill any animal, not even a cockroach.
Animals are not people and they are NOT EQUAL to people, and should not be treated as such.
bumpus
.
|

11/21/07, 09:47 PM
|
 |
Banned
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: New Brunswick, Canada
Posts: 2,369
|
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by bumpus
I know what you mean.
Most people on he have the man heading to death roe because of a simple little goat as if it was a person.
Also the goat belonged to the man to do what he wanted.
This Court Case is another off shot from the politics of people like PETA and groups just like them and Big City people moving to the country and trying to make pets out of everything so you can't kill any thing just like dogs, cats and horses today.
And it won't be long you can't kill any animal, not even a cockroach.
Animals are not people and they are NOT EQUAL to people, and should not be treated as such.
bumpus
.
|
So you say, you want to eat our cats,dogs,horses!!!! Man stay away!!!! Kidding Im just trying to lighten the mood!
Well try to tell that to half the people in the world! I watched a show about chickens and this lady had chickens as pets! In the house!!! Man that is just wrong!
Man this post just blew up!! Maybe some mod should LOCK IT! that may keep some members from killing some one!
|

11/21/07, 09:56 PM
|
 |
More dharma, less drama.
|
|
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Texas Coastal Bend/S. Missouri
Posts: 30,482
|
|
|
Please click on the little red triangle in the top right corner of the specific posts that are offensive, and fill out the form that pops up.
Maybe we can get him banned from here.
__________________
Alice
* * *
"No great thing is created suddenly." ~Epictitus
Last edited by Alice In TX/MO; 11/21/07 at 09:58 PM.
|

11/21/07, 10:05 PM
|
|
Banned
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: A woods in Wisconsin
Posts: 9,283
|
|
|
Bumpus,
Based on what you've written here today about this particular news item, I am very disappointed in you..........enough so that I would tend to base all my opinions of all your future posts with little regard.
This man did not kill this animal for meat or to protect himself.
He shot this animal out of anger, revenge and to put fear into the members of his family.
Your posts on this thread are making me ill.
This kind of man seems too capable of shooting his daughter or DW once the animals are gone.
And it frightens me that you are so supportive of him.
Last edited by tallpines; 11/21/07 at 10:10 PM.
|

11/21/07, 10:20 PM
|
 |
Banned
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Right Here
Posts: 3,280
|
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by HazyDay
So you say, you want to eat our cats,dogs,horses!!!! Man stay away!!!! Kidding Im just trying to lighten the mood!
Well try to tell that to half the people in the world! I watched a show about chickens and this lady had chickens as pets! In the house!!! Man that is just wrong!
Man this post just blew up!! Maybe some mod should LOCK IT! that may keep some members from killing some one! 
|
Some people forget I did not start this thread which is not really about goats or pets, which is another forum.
This is the goat forum where people talk about breeding, buying, selling, raising, using goats for brush removal milk, meat, 4H, etc.
But If I can find someone who knows how to fix food properly I would like to eat a dog, a cat, a horse, a opossum, a skunk, an emu, an ostrich, etc. and many other foods and animals that people eat all over the world, but are not widely accepted in this country the U.S.A. as food.
bumpus
.
|

11/21/07, 10:26 PM
|
|
Banned
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Washington
Posts: 2,113
|
|
|
Remind me not to invite you to MY house for dinner.......
Janis
|

11/21/07, 10:34 PM
|
 |
Banned
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Right Here
Posts: 3,280
|
|
|
.
The man has never be found guilty yet, and If the judge decides to say he is not guilty and turns him free.
Then all you who want to jump on me can wright the judge and the that person the same thing you told me.
No one has heard all of the evidence yet.
And you people who want to jump on me are wrong because I do not like most of your attitudes either, and you know who you are.
I have said nothing wrong to any of you but there are sure enough and a bunch who are self righteous enought to convict with out all of the evidence or a trial.
And that is why we have courts and not vigilante rules in this country or have most of us forgotten this.
bumpus
.
bumpus
.
|

11/21/07, 10:44 PM
|
 |
Student of goatology.
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Ohio
Posts: 3,131
|
|
First of all, just because one owns an animal does not give them the right to do whatever they want with them, there are laws in place in every state to protect animals from actions such of this. He deliberately caused the suffering of this goat - no matter what his reason - that is illegal as well as immoral.
Second, I would put the lives and well-being of my or ANY animal above someone like that or like you. Animals may not be people, they're better then "some" people but they all deserve respect.
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by bumpus
I know what you mean.
Most people on he have the man heading to death roe because of a simple little goat as if it was a person.
Also the goat belonged to the man to do what he wanted.
This Court Case is another off shot from the politics of people like PETA and groups just like them and Big City people moving to the country and trying to make pets out of everything so you can't kill any thing just like dogs, cats and horses today.
And it won't be long you can't kill any animal, not even a cockroach.
Animals are not people and they are NOT EQUAL to people, and should not be treated as such.
bumpus
.
|
__________________
Cloven Trail Farm
Lord help me be the person my dog thinks I am!
Ja-Lyn's Radio Flyer, aka "Rad" on his 17th birthday.
9/14/93 -12/3/10.
Rest peacefully my soulmate, I'll love you forever.
|

11/21/07, 10:56 PM
|
 |
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: SW Virginia
Posts: 1,035
|
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Rose
Please click on the little red triangle in the top right corner of the specific posts that are offensive, and fill out the form that pops up.
Maybe we can get him banned from here.
|
I have gone through each comment and I myself feel that i disagree with Bumpus comments
BUT, i also feel this is a public forum that each individual person can express there opinion and just because we disagree does not mean we should try and get that person banned.
I have not liked a few comments you have made before but i have not made that suggestion, i simply try and ignore the folks i disagree with..i think that is why they have the ignore option ?
__________________
Live simply,love generously,care deeply,speak kindly, and leave the rest to God
|

11/21/07, 11:08 PM
|
 |
Banned
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Right Here
Posts: 3,280
|
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by greeneyedgirl70
I have gone through each comment and I myself feel that i disagree with Bumpus comments
BUT, i also feel this is a public forum that each individual person can express there opinion and just because we disagree does not mean we should try and get that person banned.
I have not liked a few comments you have made before but i have not made that suggestion, i simply try and ignore the folks i disagree with..i think that is why they have the ignore option ?
|
I agree with what you are saying, but sadly most do not understand that.
bumpus
.
|

11/21/07, 11:11 PM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Middle Tennessee
Posts: 194
|
|
There are other ways to terrorize and abuse people than to "shoot or kick them". Shooting, torturing, or doing anything else to an animal with no way to defend itself because your family didn't do what you told them to...is unexcuseable. I think they should put the man out in the yard, and shoot at him when he asks for beer again. Just my take on things... my opinion, and we all know about opinions, everyone has one.
I am honestly shocked, however, that someone with the title "mediator"...is on a thread provoking members. I thought mediator meant mediating...listening to, and trying to understand both sides. Again, just my observation. A goat forum is going to be full of goat lovers. Why come to a place like that, and pick a fight?
|

11/21/07, 11:14 PM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Washington
Posts: 2,832
|
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by mamajohnson
I tell ya what, Bumpus, you turn my stomach. I hate that you even have a christian signature. You shame christians, you shame me, and you shame God. You are why so many people think lowly of christians.
|
I have to agree.
Bumpus, I don't know you. After reading what you've written here, I don't want to know you.
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:06 PM.
|
|