I hate to ask this but I need it. Thanks....

my buck did not stink for the first couple of years and now only stinks during breeding season. we thought he was a dud but we have found he is definitely a night breeder-we very, very rarely see any interest on his part or the girls but he gets them all preggers.

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Well Okay. I finally watch my buck for a good while!. Well I notice that my buck "mastbate" I cant say it. U know what I mean.. But there is my does there. But he did on himself. That is weird. I have never seen like that before..

Is your buck in with another buck or wether to learn and practice mounting?
Mine was this way last year, I didnt think he was going to do the deed Maybe if you put them in a stall together. This is what it took for mine to get it .
For 3 days I put them together for a bout 30 min. the doe would either run or beat the crap out of him and he would run. But when the time was there she stood and he mounted and did the deed.

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He is little over a year old.
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It's one thing to be dealing with this like I am with a buck born this last April...I doubt he will get it all together to be used in October like I had hoped, where as my Feb buckling has already bred does. But a yearling buck?

My yearling buck is 145 pounds of testosterone!

Your buck is not a good candidate for even choosing to breed. A quick breeding soundness exam, or a check of his sperm via your microscope (or your vets). I also have a very easy going buck who is 5, but easy going for me means he doesn't run the does, he lays around snifs them a little but doesn't bother them until they are in standing heat.

This thread is one of those problem threads like saving all kids born, even weak ones that take heroic measures. A buck is in your herd for one thing, and if he isn't doing it by 7 or 8 months, and his nutrition is good, get rid of him. Vicki

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A 3 decade dairy goat farm homestead that is now a retail/wholesale soap company and construction business.

I had a similar problem. My younger buck absolutely would not breed any one. He was intimidated. Now, this year, he is much bigger and MUCH more bucky. He can't wait to get to the girls and all his blathering and such. Give him time, he is probably a little young yet. You may have to borrow one this year, but by next year, you'll probably have a hard time keeping him away.

for me, this thread is not about stinking, or not. we are talking about a buck, born last year, that does not show any interest in the does.
he either had an infevtion and lost his fertility, is not up to date with his minerals, or is plain a dude. (means, very low fertility or none at all.
i would not want a buck like this for breeding my does.

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You are making me think of one of the mom's in my dd's dance class. A dew years ago she bought a couple of high-priced doelings and a buckling from one of the local goat breeders who makes aged raw milk cheeses in a cheese cave. I know this lady and she is very knowledgable and a lot like Vicki!
This dance mom's buck NEVER bred her does. It was a big joke to her because of course she wasn't that serious about having goats. She said when he did try, he tried the wrong end? After 3 years, she is trying to sell her goats.
I guess there are some clueless bucks out there. Mine sure aren't. I did notice that unless one doe or another is actually in standing heat, the bucks pretty much ignore them.
Jill.

susanne---you are making me chuckle! The word is actually DUD, not DUDE. A dude is a guy, any guy. A dud is a bullet or bomb that duesn't go off. So when something doesn't work as it is expected to, we say it is a dud.

Try a plastic peanut butter jar.. There's ways (believe it or not) to contain the smell. For a short distance, a ziplock back even works, just not sure if I'd trust it for a long time in the mail.

I still think you should just put the buck in with the does for a couple weeks.

Kaza

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We have a young buck right now. He seemed slightly stinky, but not really gross. The does seemed to like him him, but we wanted to be sure he would get "all good and rutty." -- It was suggested to us that a buck rag from another buck in rut will sometimes get them going - a competitive thing.

We had one made and shortly after his first exposure, he peed on my husband and has now started "grooming" himself as well.

We haven't seen him in action, but one of the does came back from "sleep-over camp" in the buck pen with a nice, crusty tail. We think he might get it together after the sun goes down and it gets cooler.

I hope you can get a lovely rag in the mail- it seemed to work for us.

I have wethers from this spring that sound like they are more active than your buck.

If he were being left with them overnight I would suspect he is a night breeder....
None of my bucks are..but I have five bucks and a current dud vying (sp?) for the ladies' attention so they are all trying to out do each other in the perfume department.
The dud is one of the ones trying the hardest. A January born buck who will mount anything and everything, he just is uncapable of unsheathing and may end up a pleasant teaser buck. lol
I don't think we've ever had the problem of bucks not getting dolled up for the ladies before a year old.
He definitely sounds like something might be wrong.
The first buck we kept back for purposeful breeding from our herd was last year. At 3 months old he was ready and rareing to go. He kept getting back with his dam and her herd and settled her at a little over 3 months old. He got sick and I got him back into health but not enough. He didn't settle any of the five does he ran with for a couple of months. His dam produced a buckling, of course.

William is laid back, unless a doe is in heat. He (4 year old), Bo (3 years old) and Rudy (2 years old) are laid back when it comes to breeding. They sweet talk the ladies and only bother them when they are actually in heat. So much so, I drove a doe coming into heat to where Rudy was vacationing to get her bred but he wouldn't do anything because she wasn't standing yet. Had I put her in my young Nubian he would have chased her down to breed her.

They can be laid back, but as mentioned before, they need to be interested in breeding as well.

I've mailed a buck rag before.

that is okay. if you see that i miss use a word, please tell me.
i'm only since nine years in the us, and english is not my native language. sometimes i know exactly what i want to say, but it comes out wrong.

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