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Old 08/14/07, 03:02 PM
 
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Sorry but maggots do eat live flesh .

I would get a pinch collar or a shock collar to start training her . She needs to learn "leave it or out " the shock works well because they think the goat has one heck of a punch ! But I would start with the pinch get it to were she will behave on lead then move to the shock.

Even when you are done never leave her alone with livestock.


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Old 08/14/07, 03:58 PM
 
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I would get a shock collar for the dog and use it until she doesn't even look at the goat.

Dog bites are puncture wounds and that is what grows tetanus.
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Old 08/14/07, 04:25 PM
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I am very sorry to say, but IF that dog ever gets lose again, she will KILL that goat next time. Once they taste blood, they will always go to do it again.
Also. That goat needs a buddy besides a cat. Goats are herd animals and they NEED other goats. I do believe you are either going to have to decide on the goat or the dog,
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Old 08/14/07, 07:11 PM
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we are (supposed to be) getting another goat in 2 weeks..need to get the dog situation figured out first though.
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Old 08/14/07, 07:21 PM
 
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Just because a dog gets blood once does not mean it will do it again. I feed my dogs lots of raw meat they are not blood thirsty killers. I have had them bite animals and never do it again. the last bite I would have done it to that darrn goat also !


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Old 08/14/07, 07:45 PM
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I would get a shock collar for the dog and use it until she doesn't even look at the goat.

Dog bites are puncture wounds and that is what grows tetanus.
My basenji mix sliced a couple of udders nipping and chasing. I used BluKote, after washing all the debris and hopefully bacteria out. The BluKote kept the area extremely dry, and this was in summer last year, no maggots or other critters made their home there . . .

You want a dog that completely ignores the goats. My basenji mix has a high prey drive, and I also had to "learn him" to not hunt and eat my chickens last year. If you can't get a shock collar, you will have to stay on that dog every day and cause pain to him if he even thinks about going after a goat.

It is possible to retrain a dog that has "tasted blood", because I have. But I was a little bit lucky. I busted him right in the act and then beat the snot out of him. I did spank him but I also rolled him around on his back, which is dog language. He must learn to "submit" to the livestock in your yard. If he does not predate on your free range chooks, he is "submitting" to them. So hopefully he will learn these are YOUR goats and he is not to bother them.

I have to stay on my basenji on a daily basis. It's more on my mind than his, as he is very good at ignoring my livestock now . But now and then he gets excited and I have to remind him of who's boss and who's animals they are. He was a pet long before I got the farm, and so it was worth it to me to retrain him. Good luck, I hope you can turn his doggie head around.
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Old 08/14/07, 08:47 PM
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Hey! Listen to Patty!

I lost a goat to dog attack (ultimately tetanus) a couple months ago. EVERYTHING she said turned out to be true, and the fact that I didn't listen about the tetanus shot (believing my vet knew what he was doing) ultimately killed my goat.

Get the SWAT, you really do need it, and get the tetanus shot, you really need that too. And do it NOW.

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Old 08/14/07, 09:39 PM
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Get the tetanus shot from a vet. Then get that dog out of the goat pen if he bites her once he'll bite again. Next do a 5 day round of Penicillian, LA200 or Biomycin. It'll fight infection.
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Old 08/14/07, 11:43 PM
 
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I would seriously consider getting rid of that dog. If she's so large and strong you can't control her and she won't leave the goat alone when commanded to do so, she's a real danger to livestock and possibly children. Prior to becoming a goat owner, I had a German Shepherd mix dog. He would go after the neighbor's horses and inspite of being obedience trained, would not leave the horses alone when told to. He also chased cars and my cats feared him. I got a shock collar to use on him. He started getting better with the horses, but I still could not allow him outdoors off a leash. One winter day, he went after a pickup truck inspite of being called off it and was killed. Had this not happened, I would have had to get rid of him when I got my first goats. I'm certain he would have attacked them. I have different dogs now and their energy around the cats and goats is really different. The cats like them and they respect the goats and obey commands around livestock.
As for treating your goat, get her a tetanus shot from the vet, keep the wound clean and spray it with a disinfectant. I would also give antibiotic shots. either pennicillin or Biomycin. They also make spray for livestock to keep the flies off.
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Old 08/15/07, 12:05 AM
 
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To weigh in with my opinion...

You shouldn't have a dog you can't control. Please don't think I'm being nasty, but if you can't control her and she is vicious (nto sure if you meant she was this once, or this is a regular thing) she doesn't need to be there. You also mention you distrust her... if you fear her, she should have been gone yesterday. She's an animal, she'll pick up on that, and if she's already unmanageable... I just don't want you or another human to get hurt.

Chaining her will only make her aggression worse, too... I'm just so sorry, such a rotten decision to have to make, but please keep yourself and other people safe, even if does hurt.
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Old 08/15/07, 06:45 AM
 
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It is some dogs instinct to attack goats. I have 2 blue heelers that I adore.The will kill a goat if it gets loose. Goats that cry out in fear or pain set them off. I have a buck that ignores them and they leave him alone. I have just made sure I have the best fence possible to keep my goats in. My advice is if the dog is not an adored pet I would find him another home.

Clean the wounds and shave the hair around them, I used honey and sulfur mixed to a paste for one of my girls. It helps the wound heal slowly and isn't dangerous if they ingest it.
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Old 08/15/07, 07:29 AM
 
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I have seven dogs. 4 of them would love to kill my goats. So it is up to me to keep the goats safe. The 4 dogs are in a fenced in area of there very own. And the goats are in a fence in area of there own. I went to a auction and bought tall dog kennels and used t post and put about 6 kennels together and made fencing for the goats. I dont think my dogs could scale the tall kennel fencing. And the goats can not get out either. Even the 3 dogs that i keep in the house could not be trusted with the goats. They completely ignor them when i let the goats in the back yard but if one was to start running I know they would chase her and catch her. Your dog was only doing what come natural. Just keep them seperated.
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