Got 2 of my goats back

I listed a couple of mine the other day on a local classifieds site, a guy wrote me and said he was interested in buying all of the "pygmy type" goats I would sell him. After reading his email I noticed a web link at the bottom of his email,so I clicked it. Come to find out the guy breeds and "Trains" pit bulls and according to his website he doesn't let people "visit" his facilties, from what I read on his site no doubt the guy sells fighting dogs . What exactly does he train them to do? Needless to say I refused to sell them, I'm almost afraid to sell them at all now, just something about the email he sent raised a flag and I am so glad he had that link there or my babies might be dog bait right now.

To make this fast before work call comes in.

First of all the people knew us and said we was Welcome to come by anytime.

Next they wasn't taking care of the goats so that is why they gave them back without any fight. If you would read I also offered their money back but they would not take it. Next I do not breed goats and some one made a comment how can you take care of them if in drought. FYI we had 2 big tractor tailors trucks to come in an we bought 7 1200lbs bales of hay.

Oh you all wondering why I check on my animals it is because I give a care not because of being nosiey.

Someone made a smart rear comment saying I wouldn't buy goats from you well that is you not me. Also a long while back some people around here starved their goats to death an not a dime was done. So yes if someone says I'm welcome to come by an check on things I will do it. I did not push myself on them plus everyone I sold my goats to are pretty close by and I'm always welcome to their place not the other way around like most of you think it is.

Next I do not care if you like what I do or not. Some of you I see as harsh people and do not take time reading things to understand them.

This is all I'm saying on here. Yes I'm smart on things and lots of folks I deal with brag on me.

Now good day.
Plus try to be more understanding instead of judgeing others of what they do to make sure animals are taking care of.

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Frankly I don't think it matters WHO complains if there is severe neglect. Neglect is neglect and shouldn't be tolerated. And no matter what, nothing was done against anyone's will here. So why people are getting a bit uppity about this is beyond me!

White Eagle, I used to breed toy poodles. It wasn't a big operation, but made enough to pay for the food and shots. Made most of my money grooming poodles. But I disgress. I would people their first grooming free. That way I could see my pups again and see they were being cared for. Then I'd offer something free here and there to keep them coming to me. I have been close to people who bought a dog from me and called to ask if I could drop by, since I was in the area. I have always been welcomed. Luckily, ever baby that I ever placed, went to t caring a loving home.

I think you did the right thing. If I bought an animal and the people called and asked if they could come by and see it, I'd welcome them. I'd be proud of them to see how well the animal is being cared for. I got two kittens this summer from a lady in the parking lot at Wal-Mart. I got her cell number and called her to let her know the kitties had settled in and I emailed her pics about a month after we got them. I think people just like seeing how "their" babies are growing up.

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This "taking animals back thing" has really got me a little iritated. I realize that in White Eagle's case that the animals in question were not being properly cared for and maybe needed to be saved. But something really weriod happened to me a number of years ago and I thought I would share. We had bougt our first goats ffter years of raising sheep. The lady we bough them from said that they were in great shape - 2 yr. olds - one kidded three weeks previous and the other bred to kid in about a month. I bought them sight unseen (huge mistake) and they were delivered to us by a neighbor kid who was on his way through our area on his way back to college. I knew the moment they were unloaded that we were in trouble. They were skin and bones - old (vet said later at least 7 yr. old) and hooves that looked like they had not been trimmed for a very long time. Anyway - to make a long story short - we took care of them for several months, kidded the other doe out and treated them for various issues that were present when we bought them. I had stuck a a lot money into vet bills for them - but that was okay since they were such sweet girls and I really felt like we had kind of rescued them from a really bad situation. Well one day about 3 or 4 months later a car pulled in to the farm - a lady got out and entered my barn. We saw her from the house. I got my shoes on and went down to see what was going on and it was the woman who we had purchased the goats from. She wanted them back. Of course she wanted them back - they were looking great compared to when we got them them! They both had put weight on - their coats were starting to look shiny again and the one doe had two nice doe kids on her. There was no way I was going to give them back to her! She said it was her right as the breeder to "take back" any animal at any time. This kind of mentality burns me up! Once an animal is sold - it no longer belongs to you - it is the responsiblity of that person - period! If you have issues with how an animal is being cared for - try to work with the person and help them to do better. But like in our case she wanted the animals back because I had greatly improved the health and apperance of the goats she had sold me.

That would burn me up too. And what a lot of nerve she had to pull up at your house and head for the barn without ever going to the house first! Heck, she had a lot of nerve to show up their PERIOD.

She said it was her right as the breeder to "take back" any animal at any time. WRONG. DEAD WRONG. And the original poster never once said that he/she went down there and took them back against the owners will. They said the people were happy to let him have them back.

In my case, I paid far more than what a starving terrified animal is worth, and the owner happily sold them to me. HE told me he wouldnt take less than $300 for either goat and he wouldnt budge on that price. It was the same price he had paid me for a healthy pregnant doe. NOT a starving unbred doe. Notice I said "owner" - never once did I consider myself the owner because I had bred that animal.

I am not condemning anyone's right to sell an animal and never check on them no matter what. Never stay in contact, whatever. That is YOUR business. I was simply saying that White Eagle did nothing wrong. IMO!

Each of you is free to do as you please - but personally I would never leave an animal in that situation if I could help it. Thankfully in my case, I was able to buy first one doe, then a couple months later the other one. My husband wasnt happy about the amount of money - but when he saw our once tame and happy Oatie come home looking like she'd been through the wringer, he was VERY upset and glad I had done it. She was scared of men for a long time.