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Old 06/25/07, 10:04 PM
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Do you give the bucks a bath after breeding season?
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Old 06/25/07, 10:06 PM
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depends, what are you breeding for? milk - then yes he is a great buy! Sell ability..... what are you does?

But I think you have them for milk more then likey so yah I would snatch him up especially if finding good bucks in your area are hard to come by. Will he be papered? Even if you don't care about papers now you may later on and having his papers would be worth it. She may ask for more if you want papers since she lowered the price so much.

I would find out if there is something wrong with him before jumping the gun. Ask many questions and if you are satisfied with the answers then go ahead and pick up your buck.
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Old 06/25/07, 10:08 PM
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well just reread what I missed and it looks like you have Nubian girls. And you breed for meat......... do you milk your does? sounds odd to breed Nubians for meat. But anyway I think that if that is your intention he might do well but you might want to consider a boer instead.
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Old 06/25/07, 10:16 PM
 
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No there for milk, But we don't want to add to our group. So seems like the best thing to do is to grow them out and butcher them.
I didn't ask about papaers, cause well don't need them with our girls. Notting wrong with him, it's late season breeding and doesn't want to keep him and bottle feed him out. Finding good goats, is a real pain in our area. Not to many people to choose from.
And we have bought bad and then sold or butchered and have started over. and i really like our girls and they serve the purpose that we have them for.
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Old 06/25/07, 10:30 PM
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well if that is all you are looking for (and before I went into pygmies and ND that is all I needed a buck for as well) then I think I would get him.

Others may say no but worse case senerio, you are out 25.00 and a few months of hay...... but I doubt that. I am sure he can do the trick for you.
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Old 06/25/07, 10:42 PM
 
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I've been out alot more then 25 bucks before.'lol
But he wouldn't be ready untill next year. and that means i would need to get a buck for this year. And i think the little baby might be to small to put in with the big boy. So now i have got alot fo thinking to do,,lol
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Old 06/25/07, 10:42 PM
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One piece of advice, when leading a full grown buck, use a lead instead of holding his collar. He will want to rub on you (out of love perhaps) and you can dodge this display easier when he's on a lead.
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Old 06/25/07, 10:44 PM
 
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lol, thank for that advice Doc,,,lol
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Old 06/25/07, 10:48 PM
 
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I'm sure having a buck isn't as bad as i think it will be. Just when all you hear about is the sounds and smells,lol can't help your self but to think the worst..
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Old 06/25/07, 10:50 PM
 
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And to add to what Doc said With a lead rope you also are far enough away when he pees....bucks have deadly aim Vicki
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Old 06/25/07, 11:00 PM
 
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oooo goodness, thanks Vicki,
Yepper your idea about keeping him untill he's done his job then starting over with a baby every year, starting to sound better and better,,lol
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Old 06/25/07, 11:19 PM
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I choose to believe they're trying to pee on me out of love also. My bucks are really, um, lovable.
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Old 06/26/07, 12:29 AM
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We currently have 6 bucks here. A 4 year old, a 3 year old (will be sold this year), a 2 year old, a yearling, a coming yearling (end of July) and a New Year's day buck kid from this year.
It gets fairly potent come rut since they are all vieing for the ladies' attention.
The smell doesn't bother me, but I have no sense of smell anymore.
They have been trained to my specks and behave, even in full rut. The 4 year old will stop at the slightest tug of his collar. He's pushing 200 pounds...I led him away from does in heat with an injured foot. No problem.
Really, the only time I have a problem is keeping the 4 year old in. There are three pens that can hold him, I just hate to coup him up. The others all stay put. He simply falls out of the pens. The 48" loose fencing doesn't hold the 4 year old.
I love my boys. They are sweethearts. I wouldn't be without them. We have had bucks that were horrible. Our first one was vicious by the time he left as a 2 year old.
The 4 year old's half brother who was raised the same way was shipped at 2 years old. He was copping an attitude.
My bucks have to be gentlemen since I work closely with them. They are handled on a regular basis during breeding season.
I finally have the yearling BoerX buck to the point where I am confident heading into breeding season with him. His attitude has improved and I haven't had to throw him recently. He walks over and then stands...waiting patiently for his chin scratches.

Now to get the 15 month old Jersey bull retrained...now there is a dangerous animal!

We did the hauling does to others to have them bred. Had an open 2 year old because of that.
We've had bucks every year since except one year. Usually no more than one or two at a time until three years ago. I end the year with four bucks most likely. The 4 year old is too related to the herd at this point. He's the biggest sweetheart...just hard to part with him.
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Old 06/26/07, 07:42 AM
 
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I like my bucks as well. I currently have 2 nigerian bucks and 2 1-07 mini mancha bucks, altho one is off to his new home this weekend, and we'll be adding another nigerian buck. I sure don't need that many nigerian boys with only 8 nigie does, but I like that I can breed the right doe to the right buck and be able to keep doelings back.

They are all well behaved and the smell isn't so bad. We love to listen to them talk. None have ever been "screamers" they sound like dinosaurs tho with all their babbling. Think they used bucks for the sounds in Jurassic Park movies!

I have two % boer doelings I need to breed this winter and am at my wits end deciding what to do with them as I don't want to bring in disease by taking them somewhere.
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Old 06/26/07, 09:14 AM
 
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If I read right, you said you aren't planning to keep the kids, that you are breeding to freshen does? If that's the case, what about getting a Boer and selling the kids as meat at 3-5 months old?
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Old 06/26/07, 03:57 PM
 
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Well, having a buck will be a big change around here. I'm hoping that we get a good boy. I'm not sure about which breed anymore. i thought a dairy breed would have been better, But since were not wanting to keep the kids maybe a meat buck would be better. Like cara said.
Seems like most everyone that has said they have a buck sounds like you all love them and you just have to get a good one.
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Old 06/26/07, 04:56 PM
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dairy bucks can easily be put in the freezer at I think it is up to 6 months. After that they become lean again.

And obviously you want the milk so you won't be keeping them longer then that.

And dairy does could be sold as family milkers but only if they are bred to a dairy buck.

But it really depends on if you will be eating your doelings too.

that buckling that was 25.00 is he bottle fed? if so then he would be a good canidate because bottle kids tend to be friendlier.

I mentioned the boer buck too in my last post, but it is up to you and what is available when you need it.
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Old 06/26/07, 05:15 PM
 
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Not many to choose from up this way. And the ones you have to choose from aren't the best in the world. But we also have city coming at us from all sides, So it's getting harder to find most anything around us.
The little baby for 25 is a great deal, and he's from good lines, So i'm sure i'll grab him up. I just have to find a decent buck for this year.
I'm going down for hay this weekend. and there is a lady down that way that breeds nub's for show and milking i'm going to swing in there and see what she has.
Thank you all again.
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Old 06/26/07, 05:21 PM
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I have always kept my own buck and always will. Convenience and disease avoidance. I have had Nubian bucks, Swiss bucks, LaMancha and Boer. By far the best disposition has been the LaManchas and the worse the Boer even though handled the same. Of course, it could very well be that it was not a temperment problem but rather a "I have horns" problem re: the Boer.

So my new rule...no horns on any buck no matter the breed.

Bucks do well with a buddy, a wether they can live with and feel like they are in a "herd". I also agree that it is a great idea to buy a buckling, use him and sell him asap. It's expensive to feed one and care for one year round for just a few minutes of his "work". I do have one that I will have a hard time ever letting go of though, a big beautiful LaMancha that I just adore
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Old 06/26/07, 05:33 PM
 
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But can't it cost the same to start over with a new boy very year? Cause your still feeding and hay worming ext.. No we don't do horns anymore.
Yeppers have to find a buddy. It's funny, you'll find weathers cost more then bucks do around me. I find that werid anyways.
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