problems problems PROBLEMS....

Whatever becomes of this...do not beat yourself up! It is easy to do. We all go through learning processes, and sometimes problems pop up, even when you think you have everything under control. We just learn to do better next time.

Best wishes!

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Mary

It might be time to start looking for a goat vet. Since your vet is not really knowledgable about them. There are a few sites that list goat vets around the country. Here is a lady that I found for your state maybe she can tell you where on that is close. Got this off of Goat 911 site.



Name: Connie Floyd, "Non-Vet"
Location: Flippin, Arkansas
Telephone: (870) 453-8291
Email: floydfam@hotmail.com
Calls Accepted: None between midnight and 7am please (unless it's a doe kidding and you're stuck - then go ahead and call, just speak slowly!
Goat Familiarity: Alpine, Nubian, La Mancha
Experience: "I have been a breeder for 11 years, show extensively and have been on DHIR and LA. I am also an RN with ICU and ER experience (15 years). I do most of my own vet care except for C-sections, have an extensive library and if it's a problem I can't help with, I can probably find you someone who can."

How's the progress, Emilea?

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Jim Steele
Sweetpea Farms
"To avoid criticism, say nothing, do nothing, be nothing." -- Robert Gates

well we switched meds yesterday and i just called my husband to get an update for this morning and scours are GONE!! he said it is still soft but it now in a clump. so am i out of the woods with them?!?! i know i need to keep up the meds.. and someone said no grain for like a month? how should i put that back into their diet? and i going to switch the grain i think i feed sweet grain... they love it but i'm not sure its good for them? it is for goats but i want something that is going to be rich in nutrition. and i am going today to get something for the little one that i addopted that has a cough and one of my alpines has got one i noticed last night... but i am so happy that its working... i also got something from TSC that you put in their water that gives them electrolites... but i think i may keep doing that for awhile since i weaned them too early..

i wish i could upload pictures here, but the sores on their mouth looks like fever blisters... tyramicen{sp} gets rid of it but i don't really know what else i can do, its only on the outside of the lips and in corners of mouth on outside. Is this soremouth that can kill them?!? it has already been thru alot of them...

Emilea, if they're still eating with soremouth, you're okay. But be cautious around it. Soremouth is zoonostic. In other words, you can be infected. I wish I had the name of the expensive blue cream I put on one of my does that had it. It helped a lot. It's gone now completely. It's home, in the milk room cabinet. I'll see if I can get the name for you. It was almost $20 for a jar of the stuff.

Ruth

Called a friend. Nolvasan antiseptic ointment. Fort Dodge manufactures that.

Ruth

ok could i get that at a vet or where would be a good place?

I buy it at the local feed coop.

Ruth

ok good well i'm going to TSC today maybe they will have some. I had 100 eggs hatch this week and need new waters!

You want to stay away from sweet feed. Alfalfa pellets , oats barley , small amounts of corn , boss or a commercial goat feed that is pelleted. I would go commerical now something medicated for coccidia even a lamb feed. No need to wait a month , thats silly. Give it a few days after all there poops are normal then start with about a handfull per animal 2 x daily and work up from there.

What meds did you switch to ? Be carefull with sore mouth wear gloves. and then burn them.



Patty

Glad to hear it subsided. Good luck in getting them on the right track.

Hey, she's the one who disbudded my babies. Very nice lady.

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Ooo, maybe I sounded mean too. I didn't try, honest, just wanted to get the seriousness of the situation across. Glad to hear they're doing better.

On the testing, talk to your vet about drawing blood. Some vets know about testing goats for diseases and will do all the work for you (but it costs more, lol). Or you could learn to do all the blood drawing/packaging yourself. It's honestly not that hard and would save alot of time/money in the long run, if it is CL. If another lump shows up, be sure to have the vet remove the entire intact cyst and send it in for testing. Don't drain it, as the pus can contaminate the ground unless you get it ALL. Then quarenteen the animal in question and wait for results... hopefully it's just a sliver or something. Test them all by blood soon, then retest when they're a bit older. For two tests, CL and CAE (which I also reccomend testing for) the total cost where I get mine testing (www.pavlab.com) is 11.00 per goat for the two. Plus the cost of shipping and needles/syringes and blood tubes, which isn't too much more per goat.

Hope that helps, and if you want more info on how to draw blood don't hestitate to PM me.

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Dona Barski

"Breed the best, eat the rest"

Caprice Acres

French and American Alpines. CAE, Johnes neg herd. Abscess free. LA, DHIR.

Sorry you are dealing with all of this but glad you are trying your best to fix it

I don't feed any sweet feed either, EVER! it is goat candy and causes digestive upsets. Not good for goats. When I first started in goats, early 90s, I literally killed some goats with sweetfeed. I never buy it ever.

My babies are 14-16 weeks old, still getting bottles, eat alfalfa pellets and coastal hay. No grain, no corn, no sweetfeed. They get minerals and clean water and have lots of room in a big browse pen.

They are routinely wormed with valbezan and cydectin (orally). They are on DiMethox 40% routinely for cocci prevention. They get BoSe injections and CDTs.

I will not feed them any grain til i am flushing them for breeding this fall and then I will start slowly, slowly....1/2 cup to start and work up from that. No big changes. Their rumens have to accomadate the new bacteria and such that go with feed changes.

Browse is wonderful for all age goats. it is what they would eat in nature. introduce that slowly also. provide baking soda from your kitchen if your goats look or act "gassy". They will eat it and burp, they won't over-dose on baking soda....this is for future reference.

Good luck, keep us posted

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Feral Nature Farm
LaManchas, MiniManchas and Boers
Member ADGA, MDGA

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