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03/13/07, 03:39 PM
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I say don't waste your time and good money on that Vet. I could not imagin my vet telling me they would not see a sick animal. They stay last , miss lunch or whatever, because they are here for the animals. Find a different one.
I had to try several different nippels before I found one that my bottle baby would take. I used a human baby nippel. I thought it would be way to big for her mouth but she liked it best. It took several of them also. If you are near a store try a pricherd (sp) or the black ones that go on alike a beer bottle.
Good luck and like someone else said, use NUTRADRENCH. I had a baby that was a little noisey when she was breathing, but she just coughted the junk up.
Sounds like you are doing a great job
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03/13/07, 03:49 PM
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Keep working with her!
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03/13/07, 07:56 PM
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I would cancel my Vet appointment. You are doing everything right. I would give a dhot of b vit and bo-se. Keep her warm and fed and she will live.
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03/13/07, 08:38 PM
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I have a little lamb that is 3 weeks old. At about 3 or 4 days she just dropped. Wouldn't eat or anything. Brought her in and worked around the clock. She was coughing, wheezing, scours..you name it she did it. Nearly died 2 times. She has been back with the others for about 4 days now, happy, healthy and great big appetite. It took about 2 weeks. When she came around, it was sudden and overwhelming. She wouldn't take the bottle either in the beginning. I let her suck on my fingers then would slide the bottle in, it took a couple days, but she got used to it.
Stay with it, don't get discouraged...Sounds like your doing fine. Also, never underestimate the power of prayer!
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03/13/07, 08:50 PM
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I was giving my little week-early, near frozen doe a good squirt of NutriDrench in every feeding (tube), it will give her nutrients and energy to keep fighting. I tubed for a week and she finally got strong enough to nurse on her own. She's still behind in development but she'e making progress.
Don't give up, if she has a will, you'll find a way!
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Lessons learned - the hard way
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03/13/07, 09:54 PM
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For small, weak babies, the Pritchard nipple is probably the best one. It's the one with the red nipple attached to a yellow cap. The only problem I'm having is finding GLASS screw-top soda bottles to put those nipples on! The plastic pop bottles have grooves in the threads that make the caps leak. The pull-on black nipples don't work on those plastic bottles, either. I've been looking in every store in town for some more glass pop bottles (with the threads for a screw-on top) and haven't found any -- I only have two left, as I slipped on the ice at the fairgrounds a couple of weeks ago and broke one. I got a couple of human baby bottles for the two littlest kids that I'm feeding, but they have to work harder to get the milk out, and I have to refill the bottles as they only hold eight ounces. Sigh. I think there is a need for someone to manufacture goat feeding bottles! (I have three of the big white calf bottles, with the kid nipples, but don't have enough babies this year to justify using them, and anyway, they are hard to hold onto.)
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03/14/07, 04:42 AM
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Don't go back to that vet.  I have had ten day early kids before and though I had to tube for five days and keep them extra warm, they did fine. When they did start sucking it was on the Pritchard nipple then I switched over to a lambar nipple on a plastic pop bottle. That she is trying to suck on things is a really good indication.
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03/14/07, 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueJuniperFarm
For small, weak babies, the Pritchard nipple is probably the best one. It's the one with the red nipple attached to a yellow cap. The only problem I'm having is finding GLASS screw-top soda bottles to put those nipples on! The plastic pop bottles have grooves in the threads that make the caps leak. The pull-on black nipples don't work on those plastic bottles, either. I've been looking in every store in town for some more glass pop bottles (with the threads for a screw-on top) and haven't found any -- I only have two left, as I slipped on the ice at the fairgrounds a couple of weeks ago and broke one. I got a couple of human baby bottles for the two littlest kids that I'm feeding, but they have to work harder to get the milk out, and I have to refill the bottles as they only hold eight ounces. Sigh. I think there is a need for someone to manufacture goat feeding bottles! (I have three of the big white calf bottles, with the kid nipples, but don't have enough babies this year to justify using them, and anyway, they are hard to hold onto.)
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What about beer or coffee bottles? I was able to get black nipples on plastic pop bottles and not leak by pulling them down as far as I could.
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03/15/07, 08:23 AM
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Shes seems to be getting stronger shes running around nibbiling on everything Im feeding every 4 hours now and its all she can do to wait that long shes taking the nipple by her self now and drinking up to 5 oz at a time.
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03/15/07, 08:30 AM
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Yay!
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03/15/07, 08:44 AM
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That's great news!
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03/15/07, 09:37 AM
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That is WONDERFUL.  What a great job. Call that vet and tell him after she is out of the woods and tell him/her that she is doing great without their help.  Sorry I had a vet one time tell me that it was going to take over $450.00 to save my cat that was attached and her head had been crushed. I figured if she does not make it then I didn't waste $450.00 for nothing.  They said she would not live without being in their ICU.
They wrote me a really nasty letter and said they had someone that would pay her vet bills. I told them I would pay the same vet bill, at HER cost also.  I thought I was going to go postal because they were saying I didn't know how to take care of my animals and I didn't LOVE them so I shouldn't have them. So I took her home gave her "goat NUTRA DRENCH" AND SHE WAS ALIVE IN THE MORNING. I sure called them and told them she was alive and I didn't have to pay that price. They asked what I did and I told them about the Nutra Drench. They had never heard of it (cat and dog hospital) Well it has been 6 years and she is so fat and spoiled. I called their CORP office and gave them a copy of the letter. That person was fired.
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03/15/07, 09:41 AM
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Great news!
I hope your vet takes a long walk off a short pier!
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03/15/07, 12:29 PM
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I would call the vet not as an attack but to let him/her know that you were able to save your kid and how you did it for their future reference.
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03/15/07, 12:33 PM
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I would call the vet not as an attack but to let him/her know that you were able to save your kid and how you did it for their future reference.
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Absolutely. He may need this to nudge him toward looking deeper into goat health.....
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03/15/07, 08:41 PM
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I'm glad your doeling is doing better. Those early kids can make it , but need smaller more frequent feedings at first.
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03/16/07, 07:44 AM
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That's so good to hear! PICS, PICS!!!
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03/16/07, 07:57 AM
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That's great news!!!
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Another happy ending...great news
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