What causes hair loss like this?

Ringworm is fungal. Do you have anything like for athlete's foot or the like? You can put that on it. Works on calves.

Sunlight will also help to heal it up, if I recall.

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I put on the iodine. He didn't like it much... It is WAY bigger than I thought it was, about the size of the bottom of the bottle of iodine, maybe bigger... Not perfectly round now, more like pear shaped and seems to be spreading. I also noticed that he feels rough, as do all the goats that I have never seen eating the minerals... I really am thinking it is copper deficiency, now. Boston, a doe with a beautiful coat most of the time has short, kinky hair along her topline now, and feels rough! Fynley and Ester are the two that don't have the weird feeling to thier coats, but Ester's coat feels "off"
can copper deficiency cause a black goat's hair to turn reddish-tinted? Cadee, the sundgau, is looking brown-reddish in the sunlight. The buck pictured above, Andre, also has this but I assumed it was from ammonia from peeing on himself... Though it is reddish on his back and flanks, not places where he pees on himself.

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Dona Barski

"Breed the best, eat the rest"

Caprice Acres

French and American Alpines. CAE, Johnes neg herd. Abscess free. LA, DHIR.

Yes, the copper deficiency will cause black hair to "rust" and also look for loss of hair around the eyes, causing them to look like they are wearing "spectacle."

Get them on the minerals.

Pat Colby states that black haired people, such as Oriental people, need 6 times the copper of fair people. She believes she has seen the same with black goats.

I don't think that it is ammonia burn, because he is getting it on his back legs too. Sorry that I didn't say that to begin with. Can a goat reach back there to spray himself, I mean I know they can peeon their faces and front legs, but his back legs seem a little too far.

how clean is the housing? Fynley, my other buck was loosing hair on his back legs as well because he was peeing and pooping alot in his house so that I had to clean it about every other week to keep him from loosing hair. If your buck is laying in ammonia like that as well, it can cause him to lose hair and his skin may be irritated as well...

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Dona Barski

"Breed the best, eat the rest"

Caprice Acres

French and American Alpines. CAE, Johnes neg herd. Abscess free. LA, DHIR.

Hmmmm, reading this with interest. I have a black buck who has an awful looking coat right now, losing hair in patches here in there and has dry skin. We mix our own grain so what do I add to it to get copper? I've never heard of sweetlix, what is it and where do you get it?

Sweetlix is a brand of goat mineral. Make sure you get the goat type. You should be able to get it at a local store, but I thought I could do that too. Now, I have Purina goat mineral which they all love, to my surprise. Mine would never touch the cow/horse/ minerals I had availible to them 24/7. I think the reason for it was that there was WAY to much salt in the mix. Purina and sweetlix have the proper amounts of everything needed. You can find a supplier near you on sweetlix's website, but be sure to call ahead and make sure that they have goat minerals. www.sweelix.com

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Dona Barski

"Breed the best, eat the rest"

Caprice Acres

French and American Alpines. CAE, Johnes neg herd. Abscess free. LA, DHIR.

It is a pelleted grain and I think I remember reading somewhere on the tag which I misplaced or somewhere that you shouldn't feed it to sheep because of added supplemental copper

'Added supplemental copper' can mean as low as 20-50 ppm copper in the feed. That is hardly enough to meet a goats copper requirement. If your goat truly has a copper deficiency, he should be fed free choice minerals with copper, like sweetlix or purina. (Depends on what is available in your area)

Also, Sweetlix makes different formula goat mineral supplements. Their 16:8 Meat Maker formula has the most copper (max: 1810 ppm) while the block only has max. 250 ppm. The roughage tub has only max. 350 ppm (but from my own experience and others, goats don't seem to go for the roughage tubs)
It can be ordered from jeffers but you'll have to pay for shipping which can cost as much as the product does.

http://www.jefferslivestock.com/ssc/...9517&area=goat

Purina mineral has max. 1800 ppm copper, but twice as much salt as sweetlix 16:8 meat maker. However, considerably less salt then most brands of minerals (which can be as much as 74% in cattle/equine minerals and some goat mineral formulas)

Maxi Min Caprine Mineral has no salt and 1250 ppm copper. Ordering info

"The mineral is currently being offered in 25 and 50 pound bags direct from Mary Kellogg. For those interested in more information, Kellogg may be reached via email at thekelloggcenter@hotmail.com or acf_kanokla.net, please put "Mineral" in the subject line, or telephone 580-694-2372

Hmmm, so if I suspect my Nubian buck has a copper deficiency can I give him the meat maker sweetlix then switch him over to regular goat sweelix once he seems okay? I need to spend more time researching nutrition for my goats. :\

I got the Purina mineral just a couple days ago. They eat alot of it. His hair is already starting to grow back. I don't know if it is from the new minerals or if it is from me spraying the Iodine on the patches. The reason my goats weren't touching the salt/minerals I had out previously was because it was a cow/equine type, with WAY too much salt. Our TSC hadn't ever carried either sweetlix or purina or any other mineral type for goats... We had to go to a different place to get it.

The reason why I suspected it was the feed is because it occured about 3 or so weeks after I stopped feeding him grain. Maybe I was wrong. As I said, I don't have the tag availible to look and see how much copper is in it.

I was thinking about ordering it from Jeffers, but it is way to much for shipping, even though the product is cheaper than in feed stores.

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Dona Barski

"Breed the best, eat the rest"

Caprice Acres

French and American Alpines. CAE, Johnes neg herd. Abscess free. LA, DHIR.