What if you had NO water for days???

Ozarkguy · #1 09/02/05, 07:47 PM

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Hi folks. Some of you may not have seen this. So here's the scoop. Go to the store and get a gallon of bleach. Now don't put this off and forget about it, this is important. Now you have that gallon of bleach? Then go to the link I'm posting here. COPY THE ARTICLE. Now put it in a baggy or something waterproof and TAPE it to your gallon of bleach. This is now a MAJOR part of your emergency kit. Keep it handy.

Purify Water

Think Katrina. Have you ever gone 4 days without water? NOT a pretty site. If you have a way to get this formula to anyone in or near the disaster area, please forward it.

But do yourself a favor and set up that gallon of bleach. No power? Water won't flow. Standing water? Needs to be treated. Boil it? What if the gas is out. Cheap gallon of bleach might be what it takes to "hold on" for a few days until help arrives.

gotta love those hills.....

Ozarkguy

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mistletoad · #2 09/02/05, 07:59 PM

Thanks for the link and the advice. Do you know what the proportions would be for concentrated or extra strength bleach? I have not been able to find plain, ordinary bleach for over a year now. Drives me nuts because I was trained to use a 10% solution for kitchen cleanup and I really relied on that, now I don't know what percentage I should use.

Ozarkguy · #3 09/02/05, 08:07 PM

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Truthfully, I treat it all the same. I think the extra strength bleach is like regular vs. super gasoline. Just a tad difference to charge more. But to be safe "search" it or e-mail one of the bleach companies.

If you want regular strength bleach, you can usually find it at any of the dollar stores, dollar general, dollar tree, those kinds of places.

gotta love those hills.....

Ozarkguy

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Mike in Ohio · #4 09/02/05, 08:48 PM

Just a quick point about the methods Ozarkguy pointed out....

Boiling or chlorine treatment can be effective against biological contamination...it will not help with chemical contamination.

Mike

Reauxman · #5 09/02/05, 08:53 PM

You don't see on national news what I see on local. There are bodies everywhere floating in that water. Not only human, but animals as well. Dogs, cats, cattle, horses as well as fish. Along with the hurricane came a fishkill due to the vegitation within the water. Sewage is another issue, as is the fact that NO is surrounded by swamps and marches.

I wouldn't drink it-period. Yesterday there was a nice thunderstorm over the city. I can only hope people had sense to collect some of that water, as although not real clean, it's much better than whats flooding the city.

Gary in ohio · #6 09/02/05, 09:24 PM

Boiling or chlorine is ok, but only for "good" water. It might help our some stale saved water, and old well or cistern, rain barrel water but its wouldnt help in NO. The water is chemically contaminated and nothing is going to fix that water.

HMM, I wonder when PETA is going to start complaining about the polluting of the gulf when they start pumping out NOLA

TNHermit · #7 09/02/05, 09:33 PM

WHat you need is a "First Need" Water filter. Its good for anything
http://www.campsaver.com/product.php?cid=83&pid=371234
http://www.generalecology.com/

Ann-NWIowa · #8 09/02/05, 09:35 PM

The same is true of ground water in the Midwest - polluted with farm chemicals and adding clorox to the mix would not improve the situation. The chemical, biological, putrid mess that exists in NO includes our farm chemicals as well as petrochemical waste. Catching rain water or setting up a solar still would provide acceptable water to add clorox for drinking. I don't know which amazes me most, people going into the dome without emergency bag with water and food or the thugs who would kill them for it. I pray I'm NEVER EVER in a situation where I'm forced into a shelter. Sorry for thread drift!

coalroadcabin · #9 09/02/05, 09:51 PM

Still, if you have water in your toilet tank or water that's been standing in your hot water heater or if you prepared by filling up bathtubs and sinks, it's a good idea to use the bleach to purify, just in case any nasties have gotten in. We learned the bleach purification formula in Girl Scouts years ago. It's a good thing for everyone to keep handy, just in case. (helps to have a small bottle of bleach in your chuck box when camping too)

texican · #10 09/02/05, 10:32 PM

Shy of a nuclear attack, I'm safe.

My well went bad in the last drought in 97, saved my pennies, and increased the size of my tiny pond till it's now a small lake, with an estimated volume between 30 to 60 million gallons...I control 100% of the drainage, and there are no contaminant sources in the drainage...I treat it with filters...It's gravity feed into my home, so no electricity is needed to pump it.

If the Chinese or Koreans nuke us, it'll be West Coast hits, and I should have several days to store up a couple barrels worth before the fallout hits.

Laura Workman · #11 09/03/05, 01:25 AM

We have a First Need filter. I figure if they can filter safe drinking water from the Ganges River, it'll work for me. We've actually used it in a brackish, mosquito filled coastal swamp and gotten really good drinking water.

tyusclan · #12 09/03/05, 06:13 AM

Water purifiers like the First Need are the way to go. They remove biological as well a chemical contaminants. We have a Katadyn Hiker. They're all similar with slightly different features here and there. You can check out camping and hiking websites to find the one that suits your needs. Backpacker.com has a link on their site where they did comparisons and got feedback from folks who had used the different ones. Lot of good info.

Ken Scharabok · #13 09/03/05, 07:11 AM

The water in NO isn't coming from a fresh water water, but rather a bayou or bay. As such it brackish salt water. Wouldn't be drinkable even if taken straight from the bayou.

See the thread on storing water in jugs.

Fortunately I have both a spring, separate large spring run and large pond.

ttryin · #14 09/03/05, 07:29 AM

Hello,

Google "urine therapy" and learn about the waters of life...Even if you think you wouldn't, knowledge is power.

http://www.all-natural.com/urine.html
http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/urine.htm

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JoyKelley · #15 09/03/05, 08:04 AM

one crushed seed from the moringa tree efectivly removes dirt and debris from water. You then need to boil or purify. this tree is from india, it cleans the water from that nasty river (can't remeber the name ) and then with boiling makes it drinkable., I am growing a moringa in my yard. there isn't one part of the plant that is not edible or usable .

http://www.treesforlife.org/project/...default.en.asp

**fordson major** · #16 09/03/05, 09:07 AM

would not chlorine pool pucks be easier to store? and carry? we have on store at least 15 gallons of water treatment chlorine at all times,there is a shelf life on the effectivness of chlorine so would want to make sure of your source. have to look into that tree,when i tried the link did not work but worked when typed in.

Cyngbaeld · #17 09/03/05, 10:12 AM

Remember that chlorine loses its effectiveness in cloudy or murky water. You must strain the water FIRST and try to get out any particulate matter. If the water is still cloudy you will need more chlorine than in clear water.

Maura · #18 09/03/05, 10:28 AM

[QUOTE=ttryin]Hello,

Google "urine therapy" and learn about the waters of life...Even if you think you wouldn't, knowledge is power.

http://www.all-natural.com/urine.html
http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/urine.htm

Urine is clean, that's why it is tested when you are sick.

When my father was about eight years old he developed an ear infection. My Scottish grandparents had a black Southern neighbor who advised pouring urine into the ear. Had to be his own urine, she said. Although skeptical, they had nothing to loose and did as instructed. Heard a "pop", and the earache and infection went away.

I've also heard of it being used on wounds. In the book, Roots, the kid was instructed to pee on the fighting cocks wound, and it worked. In the movie, Mac, the kid was instructed by his Italian immagrint father to pee on his blisters. I guess that worked too. I've never tried either of these cures myself.

Cyngbaeld · #19 09/03/05, 10:29 AM

Remember that chlorine loses its effectiveness in cloudy or murky water. You must strain the water FIRST and try to get out any particulate matter. If the water is still cloudy you will need more chlorine than in clear water.

Little Quacker in OR · #20 09/03/05, 03:57 PM

[QUOTE=Maura]

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Originally Posted by ttryin

Hello,

Google "urine therapy" and learn about the waters of life...Even if you think you wouldn't, knowledge is power.

http://www.all-natural.com/urine.html
http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/urine.htm

Urine is clean, that's why it is tested when you are sick.

When my father was about eight years old he developed an ear infection. My Scottish grandparents had a black Southern neighbor who advised pouring urine into the ear. Had to be his own urine, she said. Although skeptical, they had nothing to loose and did as instructed. Heard a "pop", and the earache and infection went away.

I've also heard of it being used on wounds. In the book, Roots, the kid was instructed to pee on the fighting cocks wound, and it worked. In the movie, Mac, the kid was instructed by his Italian immagrint father to pee on his blisters. I guess that worked too. I've never tried either of these cures myself.

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I gather that these treatments with urine are for males only?

LOL Just kidding! LOL

This is a good thread. I am asking myself how hard it is to keep ziplock bags around for medications, first aid, dry clothing and yes, a faily small ziplock will hold a little .22 plus some ammo and keep it dry. Will also hold that urine if needed! IF freezer bags are used they can be put in boiling water to heat the contents too. I don't think those poor souls down there had a clue! Mother Nature and Natural Selection at work? How sad for the children and the people in hospitals etc.

Our group is making fast quilts like crazy for the kids down there. I hope they grow up a bit smarter than their parents.

LQ