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milkstoolcowboy · #1 07/29/05, 11:38 AM

Kate,
I never had a 530 but I know a little about them. I think it followed the 511 Case and was subsequently replaced by the 570 Case.

Believe they made these tractors from 60 through 69. Neighbor had two of them, one gas and one diesel. I thought the diesel had about 40 HP on the PTO, and weighed some over 3500 lbs. The 188 is the cubic inches of displacement on the 4-cylinder engine, and the tri-range is, I believe, that it has a low, mid and high range with 4 forward gears and 1 reverse in each range. I don't know how many hours are on it, overall condition, and how much rubber on it, but I don't think I'd pay $5500 for a 530. It's light for the horsepower. Lots of guys baled with them, but in hills and with a big load of bales it might not handle the weight of the baler and load well.

A close comparable would be a 4000 Ford. A JD 1020 is a little less HP and an IH 460 is a bit more HP.

Go to yesterdaystractors.com and post your question on the Case or Tractor Talk forum. There will be guys there who know the tractor well and have used it for a variety of field work jobs. When you go look at the tractor, take someone with you who knows tractors. Good luck with the hunt for a tractor.

**fordson major** · #2 07/29/05, 11:50 AM

triple range was an option that gave you three ranges high medium and low. while in there day they were a good tractor the cranks tend to weaken and score or break. 5500 is more than they are worth here 3500. is more the ranbe but a rebuilt engine tires paint can make a lot of difference in the price.

Polly in NNY · #3 07/29/05, 12:00 PM

Any trouble people had with an engine on this tractor was mostly from abuse. This was/is one of the most popular engines. We have one in our backhoe right now. I'm confident it could pull a baler and a load of hay without a problem.
Right now we are baling with a Case D (which is a little smaller and powered a little less than the 530) and have no problems. The 530 should have 48 PTO horsepower which is plenty to run a baler. It also should have a live PTO and the range of gears would make it easy to handle any size windrow.

Faed · #4 07/29/05, 12:22 PM

OK, for all those that think the price is high, I'll post the original add. It seems like the price is decent for the work that has been done, but once again, my tractor knowledge is defficient. Also, I'm thinking about baling my own hay, but I don't have a large area...maybe 5 acres...so I would imagine that I don't need something that will do it FAST, just get the job done.

OK here it is:

COMPLETELY OVERHAULED 1965 CASE 530 TRIPL RANGE W/ 188 DIESEL. NEW LINERS, PISTONS, RINGS, ROD & MAIN BEARING, AND HEAD. NEW INJECTOR PUMP AND INJECTORS REBUILT. NEW CLUTCH, PRESSURE PLATE, AND THROW OUT BEARING. NEARLY NEW TIRES. NEW BATTERY. SHEET METAL HAS BEEN SAND BLASTED , THEN THE WHOLE TRACTOR HAS BEEN REPAINTED AND NEW DECALS APPLIED. THIS IS NOT ONLY AN EXCELLANT RUNNING TRACTOR , BUT LOOKS GOOD TOO. WOULD BE AN ASSET TO ANY FARM. ORIGINAL ASKING PRICE $5750 OBO, NOW ASKING $5500 OBO.

Jolly · #5 07/29/05, 02:07 PM

Around here, the bigger the tractor, the cheaper the tractor in terms of $/hp. Everybody wants a 2000, or a 3000 Ford. Nobody wants a 5000.

I wonder if that is the same everywhere?

**fordson major** · #6 07/29/05, 04:27 PM

yep sounds good !! without the rebuild not worth the money ,new berings will help ,change oil on a regular basis and your good too go. we have a friend runs a tractor fix it shop and part of his every year bussiness are 188's with 5000 hrs. etheir rebuilding or replaceing the cranks . ours went at 6000 with lots of hard use.

Snakeoil · #7 07/29/05, 05:04 PM

If your only talking about 5 acres, hire a custom bailer to bail that small amout. Around here you will pay $.65 cents a bail and thats in the barn price. The maintenance and upkeep on a bailer wouldn't be worth it to me.

SherrieC · #8 07/29/05, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Snakeoil

If your only talking about 5 acres, hire a custom bailer to bail that small amout. Around here you will pay $.65 cents a bail and thats in the barn price. The maintenance and upkeep on a bailer wouldn't be worth it to me.

Snakeoil, didn't you see my post ,,,,?? I can't find Anybody this year and my hay field went to WEEDS!! You can't always count on finding someone to hire.. How about buy yourself one and bale for the nearby neighbors? I found a New Holland hay bine for $600and an H farmall, for 2700, and a WD45 allis chalmers for $1000, a oh and an OLivever 1600 tractor, wide fro PTO 3 pt , runs good for $3000. and a 1962 Farmall 460 diesel fors $3500, any of those worth going to Look at?

**Ross** · #9 07/29/05, 05:53 PM

188's are a pain to rebuild (source parts) so I'd want to see receipts (being a little skeptical) but if they can, it was/is a very decent tractor. There's some truth to hiring it out; 5 acres doesn't justify a tractor/baler purchase, except that it is well worth the personal experience.

Beeman · #10 07/29/05, 10:16 PM

One of the first things to consider when buying a tractor is availability of parts and knowledgeable people in your area about that particular brand of tractor. I've lived where Ford and Massey were the brands to own. For that reason those brands held their value better than others. I currently own 2 Fords and I'm partial to them for their reliability and ease of obtaining parts and people that know them inside out.
I really can't judge the price on a Case for your area, I know around here that would be a high price for an unpopular tractor. I would look more towards a Ford 2000 or 3000 series or the later 2600 or 3600. As someone else said larger tractors are actually selling cheaper now in many areas where farms are more hobby farms than working farms.
Another thing to think about is if you won't use a tractor a lot do you have a place to keep it and all the equipment in the dry? A diesel that isn't used much is usually hard to start in cold weather, especially an older diesel.

Matt-AL · #11 07/29/05, 10:24 PM

Here is what is says for that model:

http://www.tractordata.com/td/td479.html

Matt

rambler · #12 07/30/05, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by SherrieC

I found a New Holland hay bine for $600and an H farmall, for 2700, and a WD45 allis chalmers for $1000, a oh and an OLivever 1600 tractor, wide fro PTO 3 pt , runs good for $3000. and a 1962 Farmall 460 diesel fors $3500, any of those worth going to Look at?

Haybines - need good rollers & a good sickle driver box. Those are too expensive to repair/ replace. Check completely.

H is overpriced, short on hp, and no live pto. Like a Ford N, if it is all you have it can bale some hay, but if you are looking for a baling tractor it is not the one to buy.

I think the WD45 would be a good baler tractor - not my color, no personal experience - but the price is $500 low - something wrong with it?

The 1600 would be really good for some serious baling. Might be a bit much for a couple acres, but will have all the features you want. If you can get the price down to $2700 might be a real deal if it is as advertised. Olivers are generally a good machine at a low price, good bang for the buck. Lots of speeds to pick from, live pto, good power.

The 460 will do what you want, personally did not like the old red diesels but the tractor has the features & power you are looking for - or should have.

I'd look at the Oliver if you want a lot of tractor for your needs - sounds good.

The Allis seems suspect, but the model will work for you. And the 460 as well.

--->Paul

Faed · #13 07/30/05, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Snakeoil

If your only talking about 5 acres, hire a custom bailer to bail that small amout. Around here you will pay $.65 cents a bail and thats in the barn price. The maintenance and upkeep on a bailer wouldn't be worth it to me.

Well, I know if I was only going to use a tractor for bailing, it probably wouldn't be worth the money. But, I still think its a good idea for us to have a tractor around here...there are so many things that need to be done that require that kind of power...and when I do purchase a tractor, I want it to be able to handle alot of different jobs, bailing hay would just be one of them. I don't want to buy a small tractor, and then later on down the road decide I need to bale my own hay and find I can't. I don't think the plan was to buy EVERYTHING I need to bale hay this year, but to buy the equipment a piece at a time as deals become available...a tractor being the most crucial piece.

As far as the case goes, I'm going to pass it for now...I don't NEED a tractor right at this moment, and I recieved some advice from my father to keep an eye on the market, talk to the locals around here, and really know what I'm purchasing. I'll still advidly listen to any tractor talk that flies about, and I might even post more adds as they come by, just to get opinions...as long as you all don't think its too annoying...lol.

So keep it coming!!

and thank you, I really do appreciate it.

Kate