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Old 07/05/05, 02:13 PM
 
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Acid Stain Concrete Floors Anyone???

Has anyone or known of anyone whom has Acid Stained their concrete flooring? We are seriously considering this in our bottom story. From our research it appears this is a very long lasting, rather inexpensive to do flooring; with what appears as beautiful results. We will probadly have to travel all the way to Springfield MO to purchase this stain; unless someone knows of a place it is sold in North Arkansas. We looked at Lowes and Home Depot and they do not carry the Acid Stain just the topical stain.

IF you have done this WHAT are the Do's and Don'ts that we may advoid. And WHAT were your results? Are you pleased with them?

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Old 07/05/05, 03:58 PM
 
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I bookmarked this page that someone recently referenced. Did you see it?
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Old 07/05/05, 04:21 PM
 
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No I missed it somehow William. But thanks for posting it again!
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They make it sound so easy! I've been procrastinating doing it because I thought it was a more involved process than it apparently is. Has anyone done it? I'm about as fed up of grey floors as you can possibly imagine...
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Old 07/05/05, 08:24 PM
 
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acid stained concrete

check out this house they describe what they did on their own. It think it is cool. http://www.ourcoolhouse.com
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Old 07/05/05, 09:46 PM
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I did an iron sulphate treatment on my slab then sealed it with a "seal and shine" type treatment. It can get a bit messy but it's hard to mess up. Iron sulphate was $6 a box at Ace so you can't beat the price (we used about 2 boxes for 780 sq. ft....turns the concrete a terra cotta/ deep red/orange color...let's see if these will post...the only pictures of the floors I have have the kittens in them but you can get the idea:

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It's hard to get a feel for them unless you see them in person but they almost look like nice worn leather in some spots.
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Old 07/06/05, 06:43 AM
 
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WHOA froggirl!
You did a WHAT?? Iron Sulfate treatment? And it cost WHAT!!!
The Acid Stain will cost us $76 a gallon. And the sealer cost on top of that!

Please re-post exactly what you did to your floors PLEAZZZZZ. From what I could tell they looked just great! Wonderful J-O-B. More of us this to learn this from you I think.
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Old 07/06/05, 07:03 AM
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WHOA froggirl!
You did a WHAT?? Iron Sulfate treatment? And it cost WHAT!!!
The Acid Stain will cost us $76 a gallon. And the sealer cost on top of that!

Please re-post exactly what you did to your floors PLEAZZZZZ. From what I could tell they looked just great! Wonderful J-O-B. More of us this to learn this from you I think.
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Old 07/06/05, 02:05 PM
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LOL! You guys are making me blush!

Ok...let's see about the directions. First thing to remember is there is really no right or wrong way to do it...mearly some guidlines to follow. This was tough for me because I always want to know the EXACT way to do something.
Here's what you'll need:
--1 five gallon plastic bucket
--1 small container (old jar, sturdy margerine container, old mug, etc)
--1 or 2 boxes of iron sulphate (got mine at Ace but you can get it at any garden supply store...it's used to kill moss)
--1 stiff bristle brush attached to a pole
--water
--1 foam type painting pad (to be attached to pole later)
--1 painting/roller pan
--1 or 2 jugs of "Glaze N' Seal" concrete sealer...depending on your coverage needed. I used up one and a 1/2 jugs on two 10x12 bedrooms, a bathroom and the laundry room...all of which had 2 or more coats. This stuff is expensive (I think I paid $80 a jug) but it's what will protect your color.

I did mine before framing so I didn't have to be carefull with the whole process but I know a guy who did it after sheetrock was up so it can be done. The iron sulphate WILL stain anything it comes in contact with ( just a warning) and will turn wood black.

Step 1: clean you floors...leave them wet if you want.

step 2: mix the box of the iron sulphate into the bucket of water.....stir until it's desolved. The mixture will look like very rusty water. You'll want to have a stick handy to stir the mixture periodically. The box I bought was roughly the size of a small ceral box.

step three:gently pour the mixture on to the floor using your small container, covering the entire surface. Let sit.

step four: wait....wait....wait....some folks leave it on 2 hours, some folks leave it on 24 hours. The longer you leave it on the darker it will be. It may turn yellow...this is normal. Keep your eyes open for black looking areas...these areas will be very dark and may need to be diluted to slow down the process and let the other areas catch up. The color also depends on how new your concrete is....just watch it and see how it reacts. Remember, you can always make it darker but you can't make it lighter.

step five: rinse. When I did mine, I just hosed it off. You'll have to do some mopping to get up the residual mixture. Some areas may have a yellow haze over them...this is where the brush comes in...use it and some water to expose the rich colors underneath the yellow haze...then rinse again.

Step six:let floor dry at least 24 hours before sealing.

step seven: pour some Glaze n' Seal into the pan, put the pad onto the stick and apply the Glaze n' Seal. This part is the best part sonce you'll get to see how pretty your floor will be. I would do 2 coats or more in high traffic areas. Let it dry a few hours between coats and keep the pets away from the floors (stray hairs stick).

And that's it!

I clean mine with all sorts of nasty stuff but it seems to hold up...best thing to keep it looking good is water and vinegar. The shine will dull some and you'll get some wearing but to me that's what makes it cool. If you start to get too many scratches, just throw another coat of Glaze n' Seal on it and it looks brand new.
Good luck and let me know if you have any questions!
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Old 07/06/05, 08:12 PM
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Just thought of another cool idea...you could get a concrete cutter to make large criss-crossed lines...maybe 24"x24" squares then do a Glaze n' Seal...natural color of concrete looks cool when it's all shiny.
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So you did brand new concrete? I've got 7 YEARS of feet, food, dirt, duck poop, dog spittle, cat vomit and mud ground into mine...I wonder if iron sulfate will actually soak into that?
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Old 07/06/05, 11:14 PM
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hmmm...is there a place that you could test? I don't see why it wouldn't work...we had all sorts of stuff on our's when I did it...tree sap, dirt, etc.
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So you did brand new concrete? I've got 7 YEARS of feet, food, dirt, duck poop, dog spittle, cat vomit and mud ground into mine...I wonder if iron sulfate will actually soak into that?
Try cleaning it before you stain it...................http://www.sspenviro.com/dabugsa.shtml
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CraftyDiva -- That sounds like cool stuff! Have you used it?
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Old 07/07/05, 11:46 AM
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Cleaned my garage floor with it, looked band new when done. It was either that or muric (?) acid which I wasn't comfortable using.
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Do you know how much area a gallon can do?
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I'm curious how far a gallon will go, too. Our floors are as-of-yet unsealed concrete and they're picking up some gunk.
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Old 07/07/05, 02:29 PM
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If your looking for sq. ft. per gal, can't say. It would depend on how dirty your floor is starting out.

I did mix it 4.1 (4 parts water to 1 part cleaner) so I guess you could say 1 gal. makes 4 gallons cleaner. That's for heavy duty cleaning. You could dilute it further down for light cleaning.

BTW....... didn't buy it online, got it at an auto parts store. I think it was somewhere in the $20 range give or take. So we're talking $5 a gallon of cleaner (if you do 4.1 ratio). Thought that was a good deal.
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Old 07/07/05, 03:25 PM
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Thanks for the info! I intend to try it out once construction is done here. You have given me hope of one day having a floor I can stand.
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Help!!!

Now I know we live in the deep deep boondocks of Arkansas but REALLY, this is just ridculious!

froggal,You convinced us that we also want to do our concrete floors like you did. BUT the hubby went to every Co-op, Ace hardware, Meeks, Home Depot, Walmart, and even the little local feed store. He spent the entire yesterday running all over Harrison AR (approx 30 miles north of us) looking for Iron Sulfate. No one has ever heard of the stuff at all and when our local feed store called to see if they could get a special order in for us, they were told those folks had never heard of the stuff either.

WHAT ON EARTH can we do now!? This is where we are stuck we have to get this floor stained SOON before we can go anyfarther with the work we need to finish if we are to move in the bottom portion of the house by the end of this coming Fall. ANY ideas anyone?????

Sob whine sob whine....
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