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Old 05/06/05, 08:51 AM
 
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How can I buy Pennicillin or other antibiotics without a prescription?

For bugout bag. Yes, I am aware of what abuse of antibiotics creates in terms of drug resistant strains. Just want a supply for when SHTF! Thanks.
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Old 05/06/05, 08:55 AM
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You can purchase such at well equiped feed stores, but remember they have a shelf life and need to be refridgerated. Terriamicin powder for bees is available in dry form, not chilled.
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Old 05/06/05, 08:59 AM
 
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You could always learn to raise it yourself....but I have no idea what that may involve. Knowing how to "make" it is better for the long term than stockpiling stuff that goes bad in time like this.
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Old 05/06/05, 09:13 AM
 
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Look into propolis (a bee product). It's a natural antibiotic, sometimes called "Russian Penicillon" since the Soviets used it in WWII. Unlike conventional antibiotics, it is also effective against viruses. Do a search on "antibiotic" and "propolis" and you'll find a lot of info. Here's one to get you started:
http://www.thenutritionreporter.com/bee_stuff.html
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Old 05/06/05, 09:19 AM
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Supertonic can be made at home, and is very effective. Would be a huge pain to make from scratch without a blender ect. but it lasts for a very long time.

It is antifungal, antiviral and antibiotic. We make it.
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Old 05/06/05, 09:26 AM
 
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What is supertonic? I am open to something like that, and I do want resources for the long run. However, I would like an antibiotic that is effective in the immediate aftermath of TEOTWAWKI, if for instance, my wife, my child or myself were wounded or ill. Is there any conventional medication that has a decent shelf life? I saw several sites on Terramycin with "Not for Human Consumption". How applicable is that in a situation where it may be all you have to save a life?
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Old 05/06/05, 09:30 AM
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the pennicillin sold in farm stores is listed as not intended for human use as well, but it works just fine (trust me im alive arent i ?)
and it doesnt require refrig, according to the label
like 7 .00 for a fairly large bottle,about 300-350 doses,
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Old 05/06/05, 09:34 AM
 
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Fish meds. Fish Flex = cephalexin, Fish Mox = amoxicillin, ect.
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Old 05/06/05, 10:17 AM
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Supertonic:

Should be started on a new moon, and drawn off on a new moon (I am not certain this is necessary, but I am told this is the best, so I do it this way. You would still get a great product even if not done by the moon)

All ingredients organic and fresh.

Equal parts finely chopped:
Horseradish
Garlic
Onion
Ginger
Habanero peppers

Place into enough Apple cider vinegar (must be organic, raw, and unfiltered) to just cover the ingredients. This should be extracted in a glass container only.
This will sit for 28 days (at least 14). On day five, it is a good idea to dump it all into a blender and "double blend" it. This will make it stronger. Return to container and allow to extract. On the 28th day, strain and you have supertonic. It should be shaken before use. Use a few droppersful at a time, several times per day.

The garlic is antifungal, antibacteria, antiviral, and even antiparasitic. The onion is a cousin and has some of the same properties. The habanero peppers are HOT and really increase circulation, moving the ingredients throughout the body. The ginger also increases circulation, especially in the extremeties. The horseradish opens up the sinus.
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Old 05/06/05, 10:29 AM
 
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Question for southerngirl,Can either dried or fresh habanro,horseradish be used?
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Old 05/06/05, 10:52 AM
 
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Web search Valley Vet then shop on line or order their free catalog. Good prices, free shipping, owned by vets.
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Old 05/06/05, 11:02 AM
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It is optimum to use fresh for sure, but if dried is all you have, you can use it. It will still work.
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Old 05/06/05, 11:08 AM
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I usually just tell my doctor I take extended backpacking trips, and need the large amount just in case. Most doctors have been very nice about helping me out. There are herbal choices that are available but you need to see what works for you, everybody reacts differently.
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Old 05/06/05, 07:17 PM
 
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Farm and Fleet. Many wonderful things there. Some of the biologicals are powdered for longer shelf life. You just add sterile water and voila! Instant injectables!

And yeah, it may be "veterinary grade" but it works just fine on humans (and Ponies!)

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Old 05/09/05, 09:35 AM
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Drugs from Mexico

Many Mexican pharmacies (some even legitimate) are online and you can have drugs shipped from them to you,. Parcel post.

While the do not check to see if you have a prescription, it IS illegal to have drugs sent to without a script that require one in the US.

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Old 05/09/05, 12:04 PM
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The best thing I have found is collidial silver.
We do not go to the doc, at all,,, so we just dont use antibodies.
It is easy to make. Works over a broad spectrim, virus and bacterial infections.
It is what I use for ourselves, and our animals.
That and herbs/vitamins keeps us all healthy.
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Old 05/09/05, 01:06 PM
 
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I also vote for colloidal silver. Not many bugs can survive coming into contact with it. And a simple silver generator costs about $35 or so. Long shelf life if stored in a brown bottle...
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Old 05/09/05, 01:27 PM
 
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Keeping in mind that I mentioned an open mind earlier in this thread, could you please expand on the idea of colloidal silver? I do know what a colloid is and I have heard of colloidal silver. Can it be made off the grid in the event of an emergency? Thanks for the info! And yes, I do Google, but I would like to hear user accounts, not manufacturer accounts.
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Old 05/09/05, 01:40 PM
 
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I realize that the powers that be have many reasons to discourage colloidal silver use, and the link below is definitely not to the highest quality web page, however, it is still not very encouraging.

Colloidal Silver Debunked
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Old 05/10/05, 06:55 AM
 
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when it says not for human use ..
hmm , i learned long ago ... that is just to discourage folks from using it .. most antibiotics are made and bottled by the same companies that supply it for human and vet use ..
I am lucky enough to live with in a half hour of the pbs livestock warehouse ..
I go down about twice year to stock up on vet supplies for teh farm , during the gulf war a friend and I went down together , we both needed to get bottles of pen g ... not only was there not a bottle of pen g in teh warehouse , there were no antibiotics there to be had .. the reason? it had all been pulled from the shelves , packed up and sent to teh armed forces in teh gulf .....
Had to settle for terramyacin powder for a feww weeks till production met demand and the shelves were restocked ....

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