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09/19/04, 05:38 PM
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Winter arrived last night OH NO!
Winter arrived last night while I was snuggled down in bed. Woke to three inches of heavy wet snow and is still snowing at 1630 today! Am I ready for this? Of course not, solar panels not on roof of shop yet, chicken nest doors not even cut out on coop yet, wind generator is only half installed, cars still have summer oil in them , fall yard clean up has not yet begun and holes for new fruit trees arriving soon are not dug! It does not matter when winter arrives I am seldom all set for it. We always haul in many supplies during the early part of winter while we can still drive to the house. Hauling heavy feed bags by snowmobile later on is such a chore. The white ,quiet, fluffy ground is beautiful but my mind is racing on how much I can get done tomorrow if I hurry!
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09/19/04, 06:17 PM
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It was so cool here last night that I did not turn on the ceiling fan, I am 12 out of Orlando.
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09/19/04, 06:21 PM
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I feel your pain sisterpine. Been nervously watching the thermometer the past few days expecting Jack Frost. The garden has been a tad slow this year - which is a bad thing in zone 3 and or/4-ish. The tomatoes are big green guys, the pumpkins are finally getting with it and have dozens of softball sized (green) fruit, various winter squash are oh-so-close, the peppers are flowering madly. Garden needs another 3~4 weeks to peak out. Reckon we have another couple of days at best here in the Blackfoot Valley. Durnit. It's always a roll of the dice, ain't it? I'm smelling snake-eyes. At least we didn't burn up this year. For a change. Looking like a hairy caterpillar winter here.
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09/19/04, 07:01 PM
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Yeah, some friends in colorado said they were needing a fire. There was 6 inches of snow on the flattops up above Meeker and 16 inches higher still. Have known it to frost into July and start again end of August. Have to get someone to winterize my for sale house in colorado and fix the roof. Never ends, does it?
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09/19/04, 07:51 PM
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I know what you mean, I have one ripe tomatoe in the greenhouse the rest are green softballs still. Crummy year for gardening indeed! Think the chickens are in shock, no one will walk on the snow! I agree that we will have a real montana 4 dog winter this year. Maybe that will kill off the pine beetles?
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09/19/04, 08:03 PM
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It was 38 degrees out this morning when I got up. I'm glad I live in a lower elevation! DH decided that the four cord of wood we have might not be enough this winter, so we went out cutting wood and found some shaggy manes to boot! They made a nice appetizer! My winter crocuses are starting to bloom, I guess fall is here with winter not far behind. I hope we don't get real deep snow, I am afraid of heights and always get elected to help shovel roofs!! :no:
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09/19/04, 08:22 PM
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Here in NY, we're trying to dry out. The schools are already on a 2hr delay for tomorrow morning. We'll see if they actually open. Its only 47 degrees right now and a cold front in moving in. Flooding & Ice? 
I know my most of my neighbors and friends are alright, but I haven't heard anything about when the bridges and roads will open.
I've had a cold, rainy summer here as well. The garden only now has green tomatoes, although most of them will probable rot on the vine. I did find a few carrots, about 3" in length, and a few small potatoes this afternoon. I added them to the split pea soup I made for dinner. Everyone was so excited to have something from the garden on such a day.
It really was wonderful that my family was so appreciative of our meager dinner.
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09/19/04, 09:45 PM
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You mean SOMEONE got snow before Alberta did? Whoooo hooo!!! I'm doing my victory dance!
It did get cold here over night. I left the kitchen window open last night by accident and DH was *mildly chilled* this morning when he got up... it got down to three degrees (celsius). We had the fireplace going today. Brrrr... not long off!
Tracy
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09/19/04, 10:26 PM
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It was HOT here today in Texas. I don't want winter but I'd happily settle for something cooler than 95 degrees.
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09/19/04, 10:31 PM
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do you live in elko? that is one of the places my DH keeps talking about going during the winter in a few years when he is too old to snowmobile down the 6 miles to the car parking place! Any info would be appreciated: hospital? population? elevation? winter weather? etc, thanks kathleen
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09/19/04, 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by sisterpine
do you live in elko? Any info would be appreciated: hospital? population? elevation? winter weather? etc, thanks kathleen
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Yes, I live in Elko.
Elko is the county seat of Elko County, so many services are available here that serve the entire County, and beyond. There is a Wal-Mart (currently being expanded to a Super Wal-Mart), a K-mart, Penny's, Sears Home & Garden, two existing builders centers, a new Home Depot under construction, casinos, lots of good places to eat & fast food, several new & used car dealers, not to mention five brothels! There is also a ski resort with three lifts (1 chair, 2 surface) about 6 miles north of town.
There is a very nice hospital in Elko, as well as doctors, dentists, optometrists, etc. Someone told me that the population was 17,000 but it is probably closer to 25,000 of you include the town of Spring Creek, located just a few miles south of Elko.
The elevation is about 5000, but some rural subdivisions are at around 5500. Elko has a winter, but not as severe as Montana winters.
There are two features that drew me to Elko, 1) shallow table water, and 2) inexpensive land. Both are important features for modern homesteading.
The water is shallow and plentiful because we are in the Great Basin. In other words, water that falls here never leaves here. Well, water can leave by evaporation of course, but not by any rivers to speak of.
Land is inexpensive here thanks to Bing Crosby. He bought 3,500 acres east of Elko to use as a ranch in 1943. In 1947 he sold that land and bought another ranch about an hour north of town. Since the 3,500 acres east of town was already conveniently zoned, almost the entire area was subdivided. Suddenly there were more properties available than there were people to buy them, and that condition still exists today to a degree. (There is a longer story to this, so ask if you are interested)
That is the pretty much the quick & dirty rundown on Elko.
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09/20/04, 12:37 AM
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Sisterpine, I feel for you. I grew up in Havre, MT about 40 miles from the Canadian Border. I have fed cattle on an open tractor at -20 degrees + the wind chill, shoveled my way out of snow drifts, chipped ice off the waterers and generally did my winters.
Now at the tender young age of 56 I live in AZ. The summers are hot and we spend lots of time indoors when not out working. Our high utility bills come in the summer. Sounds like a Montana winter doesn't it? This is the flip side. When the heat breaks and winter arrives we have about 6 month's of reasonable weather. No snow, no ice, don't have to plug in the heater on your car, just some great weather. I drove out of a snow storm in Colorado 19 years ago and never looked back. The only thing I miss is the skiing. I guess every place has it's +'s and -'s.
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09/20/04, 06:23 AM
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You mean SOMEONE got snow before Alberta did? Whoooo hooo!!! I'm doing my victory dance!
Tracy
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:haha: :haha: LOL. Know your feeling. We're burning wood too... the wife is cold. The husband is calling this good sleeping weather... so we've got a fire in the woodstove downstairs to keep the wife warm... and the windows still open upstairs to keep the husband happy. 
Marriage is such a compromise!
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09/20/04, 08:07 AM
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I remeber those days in Montana and was glad when fall came. At least we were done with harvest and all the field work was done. Then all we had to work with was the cattle which I enjoyed more. I usually worked outside all winter no matter how cold it got. You just put on more clothes the colder it got, but you adapted to it. Now that I live in southeaster Washington, I like the seasons here, some snow and cold weather, but not much. What I dislike the most is the rain in winter and spring, but I can live with that.
I miss the cold temps the most, never thought I would say that.
Bob G - formerly of Bozeman and Billings area.
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09/20/04, 08:44 AM
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It was in the low 50's here this morning, but will be going up to 80 today here in north Central Alabama....
I have lived in the snow-early-and-long areas and loved them.
I am so glad that it is at least turning a little cooler here because my Angora bunnies have suffered so in the heat this summer no matter what I've done for them (fans, constant icey bottles, and more)....
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09/20/04, 09:56 AM
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Voice of Reason
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I live in AZ. The summers are hot and we spend lots of time indoors
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I had the same experience in AZ. I lived in a remote area about 100 miles west of Phoenix for over 10 years before moving to Nevada. The summers were quite severe there, and I treated the summers in much the same way people up north treat winters.
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09/20/04, 10:37 AM
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Goshen Farm
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Hi; How funny is that, I spent 30 years in arizona and did my outdoor career there. You are right it is the exact opposite, we stayed inside when it was 105+ and here we stay inside when it is -10 or more or really windy! Nothing changes, but I do love to see the hush that winter brings over our world. Life slows down some and there is even a bit of time to play in the snow. Unlike summers here where we go at the "mad rabbit" pace trying to get all the big outside projects done before the next snow. Last snow this year was June 15 and First snow Sept 18, pretty darn short summer even for this area!
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09/20/04, 11:48 AM
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I'm in SD near the ND border and have the green tomato blues also. We 've had frost every month this year. I spend part of every day pleading to the tomatoes and the lonely 5 squash to ripen. Temps going to plummet tonight so I will pick all turning tomatoes and bring them in. Last year I had success in covering them with plastic then a big blue tarp and old blankets. It worked real well even though it dropped into the 20's. Will do again tonight.
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09/20/04, 11:55 AM
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Tracy,
Edmonton got 4cm of wet sticky snow 2 weeks ago, fyi.
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