What kind of "tree" is this?

JONKS · #1 05/01/15, 06:33 PM

A lot in pasture and want to make sure I get correct herbicide. And a lot is 300 or so with 2-4 in trunks.
Thank you!!!

flowergurl · #2 05/01/15, 07:30 PM

Can you get a better picture of the leaves please ? I can't see the shape of them in this pic.
Also, what area are you in?

JONKS · #3 05/01/15, 07:50 PM

I'm going to try to tomorrow. In south central ks. Thought it was some Japanese tree or something. But the guy that looked at pasture last November saw a lot of different things.
I'll post one tomorrow. (They are aways away

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Fennick · #4 05/01/15, 07:59 PM

Jonks, just so you know for future reference there is a Plant & Tree I.D. subforum in the Country Living Forums on the index page. Here is the link: http://www.homesteadingtoday.com/pla...dentification/ You will probably get more answers by posting your plant ID questions there.

The above poster is correct that it would be hard to ID your plant as the picture is fuzzy and indistinct and is taken from too far away. It would be best if you can post a couple of close up pictures showing the details of the leaves as it is the leaves that will provide the ID, also it would be good if you say how big or small in size the leaves are in their length and width in inches.

farminghandyman · #5 05/01/15, 08:43 PM

look like some elm trees to me, that are about 2 to 3 years old, but like said the pictures are not a great help,

the CRP grass have a lot of small elm trees growing in them, around here, the seeds blown in off of old farmsteads that Have elms for wind brakes,

JONKS · #6 05/01/15, 08:48 PM

Will try it in that forum fennick! Thank you! Along with close up pictures also! Thanks all for the help!

Bearfootfarm · #7 05/01/15, 08:51 PM

If they are no bigger than the ones pictured, you don't need an herbicide
You just need a good Bush Hog set as low as it will go

JONKS · #8 05/02/15, 10:52 AM

Leaf picture.
They are too big to bushhog. Some are small others are pretty big.

where I want to · #9 05/02/15, 11:05 AM

American beech?

JONKS · #10 05/02/15, 11:12 AM

Maybe an idea. They are everywhere!!

Fennick · #11 05/02/15, 11:34 AM

I think that's Alder.

Here's others for comparison: https://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q...og&sa=N&tab=wi

You look up images of alder bark, alder saplings, alder trees, leaves, catkins, etc. and you'll see they all match with your last picture.

Alder grows fast so if you want to get rid of it quickly before it gets out of hand you could try what BFF suggested and mow the small ones all down with a brush hog. The wood is soft and easy to cut, you could cut the other bigger ones with chain saw or bow saw.

JONKS · #12 05/02/15, 11:48 AM

You bet! I guarantee that's it! Looks identical! Any herbicide work?

where I want to · #13 05/02/15, 11:53 AM

Well-duh. As if I don't have a bazillion alder sprouts here too.

Fennick · #14 05/02/15, 12:01 PM

There are several herbicides that will kill alder but I can't recommend one since I've never used herbicides. Hopefully someone else can. Also if you google "herbicides to kill alder tree" you will get some results. The thing is with alder if you use a herbicide you won't get very good results if you just apply to each tree and wait for it to die. With most of them you will still have to cut each sapling or tree down first and then put the herbicide directly on the exposed trunk and inner core to kill the root systems. You'll need to do that because even if you cut all the alders down but don't use the herbicide then you will get 4 or 5 more saplings come up from the roots in place of each 1 that you cut down. They are worse than cherry trees and grow just as fast as cherry so unless you want an alder forest growing in your pasture you'll certainly need to attend to them soon.

For your info, any alder trunks smaller around that a man's wrist you should be able to cut down with a good brush mower. The wood is not hard to cut which is one good thing about it.

Bearfootfarm · #15 05/02/15, 01:39 PM

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Leaf picture.
They are too big to bushhog. Some are small others are pretty big.

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And a lot is 300 or so with 2-4 in trunks.

That's well within the capabilities of even a medium weight Bush Hog

Larger ones you just hook to a logging chain and pull them out by the roots

JONKS · #16 05/02/15, 04:14 PM

Ok so I'm wrong.

. I thought our "bushhog" we have is actually a back implement on the john deer is actually a bigger mower. I've always thought it was a bushhog and honestly thought they could be mowed down. This is why they cannot, sorry guys shoulda got better information for yall.
I think maybe renting a real bushhog and mowing them down is feasible then possibly spraying in hopes it will help.
Thanks all!!

Ozarks Tom · #17 05/02/15, 05:32 PM

The best stump killer on the market is Tordon as far as I'm concerned. Just drop some on the cut stump, and it will not only kill that stump, but any sucker shoots running off of it. I've used it to kill huge sumacs, and the runners 30' away die too.

JONKS · #18 05/02/15, 06:20 PM

Awesome! Thanks a lot Ozarks Tom!
Local Orchelins in guessing? I'll google it. Thanks again!

Bearfootfarm · #19 05/02/15, 09:51 PM

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I thought our "bushhog" we have is actually a back implement on the john deer is actually a bigger mower.

There are different catagories of mowers, and you may have a "finish mower" which is often belt driven and meant only for cutting grass.

The heavier models are gear driven, have larger blades, and are rated for higher horse power as well as being able to take down larger brush and trees

Allen W · #20 05/03/15, 10:26 AM

Chinese Elm, I have a bunch showing up. Check with a local chemical dealer if spraying isn't a problem for recommendations and timing in your area. At that size it should still be easily controlled. I would leave the brush beater parked, easier to spray the standing tree then to chase stumps and spray them.