Any ideas on keeping horse out of cattlefeed

Conhntr · #1 02/08/15, 08:01 PM

steers and horse in the same pasture. I dont want the horse eatting the cattles grain. They are on grower and hay now
in a couple months will be on brewer grain and grass
then brewers and hay during winter.

This horse really is nosey and loves grain. I dont have time to bring in the cattle feed and turn out every day. I have no idea how to handle this and am Trying to think of solutions that the cattle can go in out and not the horse. The calves are jersey and the horse is 15 hands.

My plan so far is to make a small enclosure with cattle panels and some kind of cattle only entrance. So i can put out grain and "cattle hay" that i dont want the horse in, but they can come and go as they please. Would a "low bridge" entrance work where it is set below the height of the horses back but the jerseys can duck in? If i leave it high enough for the calves will the horse cammondo crawl in?
i was thinking a gate that goes it only but the horse is good at opening gates and they have to be secured well or he gets em open

wr · #2 02/08/15, 08:40 PM

Wouldn't it be less time consuming to bring the horse in while the calves are grained or split the pasture with electric fencing?

Annsni · #3 02/08/15, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by wr

Wouldn't it be less time consuming to bring the horse in while the calves are grained or split the pasture with electric fencing?

That's what I'm thinking. It's vital that the horse doesn't get into the cattle feed as it could prove to be very dangerous. I'd pull the horse and leave the cattle.

FarmboyBill · #4 02/08/15, 08:44 PM

Horse eat too much grain, he get foundered

Here in Okieland, you need to look close to your pk when you go to the sale. Likely find a horse tied to it

Annsni · #5 02/08/15, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by FarmboyBill

Horse eat too much grain, he get foundered

Cattle feed has additives that will kill horses. Both lasalodic and monensin in even small amounts have been shown to be deadly and right now there is a horse feed that has been shown to have monestin in it and large barns are under watch to make sure that their show horses are not ill by it after finding out about the mistake. It is absolutely vital that a horse not get even a little cattle feed.

big rockpile · #6 02/08/15, 08:58 PM

Can't feed Horses and Cattle together. Horses will fight each other over feed. Just can't be done.

big rockpile

Sawmill Jim · #7 02/08/15, 10:36 PM

Find someone you hate and give them a horse

It cost more to care for and feed one horse than two cows .

wr · #8 02/08/15, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by big rockpile

Can't feed Horses and Cattle together. Horses will fight each other over feed. Just can't be done.

big rockpile

Lots of ranches do it with no problems at all. You just need to have enough space and suitable feeders. The problem arises when you add grain, supplements or commercial feeds because each species has specific requirements.

Truckinguy · #9 02/09/15, 08:30 AM

Tell the horse that if it doesn't smarten up and stop eating cow feed it will grow an udder like the cow... that aughta do it... unless the horse would be into that... in which case you would have to accept the horse's alternative lifestyle and run an anti-bullying course for the rest of the animals on the farm...

Sorry, just getting into my first coffee... ya never know what scary stuff runs around this head of mine pre-coffee...

Alice In TX/MO · #10 02/09/15, 08:36 AM

Yes, a 'creep feeder' type entrance might work until the horse wises up.

arabian knight · #11 02/09/15, 09:05 AM

That is why when I had horses and raising a steer or two, I bought feed that could be fed to All Stock, did not have meds and such in it for cattle that are toxic to horses. Now I always had them separated but if a horse got loose or something and got into the steers grain it is the same that the horse was eating so no worries other then the horse eating to much, which is a big deal.

wr · #12 02/09/15, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by arabian knight

That is why when I had horses and raising a steer or two, I bought feed that could be fed to All Stock, did not have meds and such in it for cattle that are toxic to horses. Now I always had them separated but if a horse got loose or something and got into the steelers grain it is the same that the horse was eating so no worries other then the horse eating to much, which is a big deal.

I've always done the same and it makes life a lot easier.

Yvonne's hubby · #13 02/09/15, 01:49 PM

A quarter ounce of lead will solve the problem.

MO_cows · #14 02/09/15, 02:22 PM

Our local farm service rents a portable creep feeder for $30 a month. You might see if something is available like this in your area.

Conhntr · #15 02/09/15, 05:44 PM

Maybe ill just takein the barn first thing and feed there then turn them out right before i go to work. This is the kind of horse that would eat grain until he falls over dead. But i do want to feed the brewer grain to the steers i think they will grow alot fasterthat way

Maura · #16 02/10/15, 07:14 PM

Some horses will crawl under, but most won’t. Separate them, without the bad feed- just oats and some corn for interest, and see if the horse follows.

Molly Mckee · #17 02/10/15, 07:57 PM

If you don't keep the horse out of the cattle feed, the problem will solve itself. You will kill the horse. Separate the horse from the cows.

DaleK · #18 02/10/15, 08:22 PM

Put the horse in the freezer.

Conhntr · #19 02/11/15, 06:30 PM

not my horse i wouldnt own one. I get 300$ a month to throw ascoop of food at him once a day.

hiddensprings · #20 02/12/15, 11:40 AM

I run my horse with my cattle. When its time to feed the cattle grain, I put the halter on the horse and tie him to the fence with a small handful of grain in his bucket. Once the cows are finished, I let the horse go.