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Old 01/22/15, 03:16 PM
 
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Death by Chocolate

Its REAL, for bears at least.

http://www.wcax.com/story/27914248/4...t-proposes-ban

"The Concord Monitor reports two cubs and two adult bears were taken to labs at the University of New Hampshire. Necropsies and toxicology reports confirmed they died of heart failure by poisoning of theobromine, a toxic ingredient in chocolate."
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Old 01/22/15, 05:01 PM
 
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It is supposed to be deadly for dogs too.
More for me.
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Old 01/22/15, 05:06 PM
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Cats cannot taste sweetness.

It is foreign to them.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...-taste-sweets/
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Old 01/22/15, 05:41 PM
 
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so how much do I feed a dog?
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Old 01/22/15, 06:25 PM
 
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so how much do I feed a dog?
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Why do you want to kill the dog?
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Old 01/22/15, 06:44 PM
 
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well if OGGIE can
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Old 01/22/15, 08:09 PM
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Oggie wants to kill a dog? He secretly loves cats but I didn't know he hated dogs.

Using chocolate to poison anything is a waste of good chocolate, or maybe they use cheap stuff.

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Old 01/22/15, 09:01 PM
 
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My one sister had a poodle that ate chocolate 3 times a week and lived to be 16.
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Old 01/22/15, 09:26 PM
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I don't know how much chocolate it takes to stop a bear's heart but I'd bet I've eaten a bear's share in my life, LOL.
And it's good to know as I'm looking more like an old Grizzly that I kinda like being tougher than a bear sometimes.............
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Old 01/22/15, 09:42 PM
 
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I have heard of chocolate poisoning dogs. I know a guide up my way and he gets these giant 5# chocolate bars that are unsaleable and he uses them for bait. I always wondered if this could harm or kill the bears. I asked him about it but he said no. I guess he might have been incorrect. Or perhaps his baited bears were harvested before the chocolate could kill them.
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Old 01/22/15, 09:50 PM
 
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my dog once ate a whole box of chocolates, she stole them from under the Christmas tree. She just threw it all back up a min or 2 latter. But that dog has had so many close calls i think she also stole 9 lives from a cat
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Old 01/26/15, 09:49 AM
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My basset hound ate an entire bag of Hershey's Miniatures once - the big bag, not the smaller size. Ate the wrappers and all. Only evidence of the crime was the remains of the plastic bag the candy came in. And the dog? She didn't even get sick - no throwing up or anything. However, we were more careful with where food was left in the future...
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Old 01/26/15, 10:12 AM
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My basset hound ate an entire bag of Hershey's Miniatures once - the big bag, not the smaller size. Ate the wrappers and all. Only evidence of the crime was the remains of the plastic bag the candy came in. And the dog? She didn't even get sick - no throwing up or anything. However, we were more careful with where food was left in the future...
There is a difference in Milk Chocolate and maybe what unfortunately maybe what those cubs ate. Milk Chocolate like those Hershey's Miniatures has a small amount of cocoa in it. But the darker the chocolate is the more of cacao in it and it is the more it has the more of that theobromine is in it.
Baking Chocolate things like that are high in theobromine.
But those minis and other things like chocolate cookies etc, have so very little, I know many a dog that has eaten many a OREO cookie throughout their lives and not one of them have gotten ill.
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Old 01/26/15, 11:01 AM
 
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I think different dogs have different tolerances. Be on the side of caution.
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Old 01/26/15, 11:19 AM
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Chocolate is also poisionous to humans, but we need to eat a lot more of it.

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According to the Merck Veterinary Manual, baker's chocolate of approximately 1.3 g/kg (0.02 oz/lb) of a dog's body weight is sufficient to cause symptoms of toxicity.[8] For example, 0.4 ounces (11 g) of baker's chocolate would be enough to produce mild symptoms in a 20-pound (9.1 kg) dog, while a 25% cacao chocolate bar (like milk chocolate) would be 25% as toxic as the same dose of baker's chocolate.[9] One ounce of milk chocolate per pound of body weight is a potentially lethal dose in dogs
(from wikkipedia)

So to cause a symptom in my 40lb dog she would need to eat 3.2oz of milk chocolate. To kill her she'd need 40oz! theoreticaly a human needs 3x as much.. so to kill me.. would take an awfull lot lol. But a bear.. wow that must have been a lot of chocolate.

I never give my dog chocolate, but I do not worry if she picks some up on a walk, or gets crumbs off the floor.
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Old 01/26/15, 08:29 PM
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The hunter running the free food stand (baiting station) had put out 90 pounds of chocolate which the bears ate. That's a lot of chocolate. Two of the bears were cubs so lower tolerances as they were smaller. Figure that the adults ate about the equivelant of 30 lbs of chocolate each. That is a lot of chocolate.

Our dogs love chocolate. They eat it. No problems. They don't eat that much. Neither do I. You and I would probably die too from that much too. It's all about quantity. Same would go for huge amounts of caffeine, etc.

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