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Old 12/22/14, 04:13 PM
 
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survey?

How does that work these days?? My offer on our parents' house was accepted. I haven't asked for much of anything, but I specifically said I wanted to be here when the surveyors came. They were here today. I was not told, so I was not There is one new flag, directly with the flag from the survey for the house next door, which sold during the fall. I have looked three times, and can only find one other pin. It is well inside what I understand is the property line. No other corner pins. My stress level is right up to my eyebrows. My elderly neighbor came to the door and said he thought they messed up; we know where the line is. Ummm, nope, we don't.
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Old 12/22/14, 04:22 PM
 
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It is the surveyor who did not contact you. Call up the firm and ask whatever questions you have. The firm may have been paid for a full survey, but may have only been paid to shoot a line.
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Old 12/22/14, 05:23 PM
 
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Whats with those crummy little sticks they put up when they survey? When I locate a mark I drive a tee post in about 3 feet deep.
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Old 12/22/14, 06:25 PM
 
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You found one pin well inside the line. Not knowing how big the lot is that one pin is where the surveyor probably set up his transit and shot the corners he could find. Now he will return to the office and with information from the site and info from the courthouse records draw up your new plat. Will return and set the corners if no other issues are discovered with adjoining property.

The surveyor was on site and gone in an hour or less.

I would just call the surveyor directly and set a new time and date.

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Old 12/22/14, 06:55 PM
 
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The flag may just be a marker and not a corner or line. I recently subdivided and had flags all over the place including one about 5 feet from my door. Don't sweat it until you have the final results.
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Old 12/22/14, 07:40 PM
 
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I hope you are right. What I found is a long nail through a fold of orange tape. There are two extra holes, one either side of that marker. So much has been on hold for me, this has that last-straw feeling.
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Old 12/22/14, 07:49 PM
 
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You are worrying before you have the information. Patience is good at this time....James
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Old 12/22/14, 07:55 PM
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Not knowing how big the lot is that one pin is where the surveyor probably set up his transit and shot the corners he could find.

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Depending on the land, they may have been there for hours.. My property it would take a surveyor several hours to get from one corner to another. Not one corner is seeable from another... Too much brush, too many hills.. It would take them several days...

This could be the situation with the OP for all we know..
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Old 12/22/14, 08:12 PM
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Property corners are commonly marked with rebar driven almost flush with the ground and topped with a plastic or metal cap with the surveyors license number stampd in it. So ehow there will be some metal at the point so a metal detector can fins it years down the road.

There is commonly a white wooden 2x2 "guard stake" pounded in the ground within a foot or two of the capped rebar with a notation written on it telling what the point is -- like
property corner, line stake, trav point etc.

A nail, or tack, in a wooden stake is more likely a temporary traverse point that will mean nothing to you but is used by the surveyor to most efficiently/quickly get from A to B etc. Common when the desired points are not intervisible, like going over a hill, around trees or buildings etc.

It's common for a crew to go out to locate existing points like monuments and corners, and then bring the data back to the office to research and grind numbers necessary to set the corner(s). If you asked to be there when the corners are set, they may not be ready for that yet.

I'd wait to talk to the surveyor before you worry too much.
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Old 12/22/14, 10:09 PM
 
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When i worked for a surveyor we did the 16d nail with blue tape folded under the nail head. It was a temporary thing.

I bought 2 acres behind me years ago and the surveyor shot all the corners on the purchased land and two coners of the my existing property by setting the transit up one time. It was all pasture and he was done in less than hour. It just all depends on the site.

Had some more land surveyed 10 years ago and after all the pins were set the surveyor an I met and walked the property to clear up any questions.

Also the "surveyor" may never come to the site. May just be his crew with a tech.

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Old 12/22/14, 10:36 PM
 
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I just worked with the surveyor on a 40ac property we just purchased,it took him 3 days to complete the survey. Call the surveyor and ask him.
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Old 12/23/14, 08:36 AM
 
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Back when they were surveying the road here because it was going to be paved and it is so far off center the surveyor was on my property line where it meets the road when I walked out there to see why they were there. He asked me who put in my fence and I told him I did it. He said he had never seen one so straight and perfect. I told him I had a survey done so I shot off the points and used my transit to shoot every other post and stretched a string for the ones between. Then I told him my fence was exactly two inches inside my line and he said, "Yes, Exactly two inches."
Here we have driven steel section corners and one of them is right there in the dirt road for the section I own a corner of.
Yes the road is still dirt. We had a meeting and protested the paving because of all of the 100 year old Sugar Maple trees they would have to take down to center the road. Besides this road is used by all of the horse riders around here and I like the horses better than a paved road.
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Old 12/23/14, 09:11 AM
 
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we have to ask to have the corners pinned here or they just do a quick survey for the mortgage company and call it good.
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Old 12/23/14, 02:34 PM
 
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They were back doing more while I was out today. My elderly neighbor ran right out and told them they had it all wrong A young man was still here or back here, saw him out the kitchen window when I got home at 2PM. By the time I put on coat and boots, he was coming up the driveway, but I had a minute to talk. The marker I described is not a line. It's what they are measuring from. They haven't finished yet. I asked for an extra pin midway on the two long sides of the yard, so I can run a fence eventually w-o paying for another survey. Big sigh.
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Old 12/23/14, 04:15 PM
 
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Yes - you were worrying too much and too early - there is enough time to worry when they give you the bill
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